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   Jupiter Rowland (jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 10:59:36 JST Jupiter Rowland
   Mastodon might introduce a "proprietary", home-brew "No quote-toots allowed" flag outside the ActivityPub standard that probably won't be documented anywhere. Just like their "sensitive image" flag, but even more critical.
   
   And if that happens, all Fediverse projects that have a quote-post/quote-boost/quote-tweet/quote-toot/share feature will have to have that flag reverse-engineered from Mastodon's source code and implemented a functionality that greys out the corresponding button under "no quote-toot" posts. And all their instances will have to upgrade to a version that fully supports that flag before Mastodon rolls out that flag. Or else Mastodon will defederate all their instances for being non-compliant.
   
   This will at least affect Friendica and everything that can be traced back to it, including Hubzilla and (streams), as well as Misskey and everything that can be traced back to it, including Firefish whose development is dead and dozens upon dozens of other Forkeys.
   
   If this actually comes, and if it's enforced immediately after release with no grace period, Mastodon could just as well fully be defederated from the rest of the Fediverse due to being incompatible. It'd cause a rift between Mastodon and the non-Mastodon Fediverse anyway because the former would have a requirement for federation which the latter is incapable of fulfilling.
   
   🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇮🇱 🐧 🥦 schrieb den folgenden Beitrag Fri, 05 Jan 2024 14:44:40 +0100
   #QuotePosts are coming to #Mastodon. It is on the #RoadMap of #features to implement.
   
   Here is a #FeatureRequest to opt out of quote posts. Please vote:
   
   https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/25735
   
   Here is an interesting article about research on quote posts or #QuoteTweets
   
   https://absolutelymaybe.plos.org/2023/01/12/quote-tweeting-over-30-studies-dispel-some-myths/
   
   #Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #MastodonIsNotTheFediverse #NotOnlyMastodon #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuotedShares
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     NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 00:49:16 JST NEETzsche

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     The people in that Github issues thread seem really reluctant to take t he idea seriously.

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     Scott M. Stolz (scott@authorship.studio)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 00:49:27 JST Scott M. Stolz

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     What a minute. I thought we had to worry about Embrace-Extend-Extinguish from major corporations. It sounds like Mastodon is using that strategy themselves.
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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 00:58:14 JST 

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     @NEETzsche @scott Literally nothing would happen even if said flag would get implemented. Other engines will simply ignore it, and the worst thing that could happen in this case is Mastodon instance on receiving end rejecting the post.
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     PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 01:57:28 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer

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     @mint @scott @NEETzsche if they reject shit it just means that there will be two fediverses.
     
     One of George Takei and safe edgy posts, one that is so anti corporate that posting there gets you fired.
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     NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 03:32:53 JST NEETzsche

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     Honestly we'll probably implement the flag but just always set it to false lol. I wouldn't even really object to such a flag being there, I'm just not writing any enforcement mechanism for it, either.

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     Tadano (tadano@amala.schwartzwelt.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 03:41:14 JST Tadano

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     @Pawlicker @scott @NEETzsche @mint Frankly the Takei-tier side of fedi is sclerotic anyway. Every instance there has its legs blown off by jannyisms. Most of the growth in fedi activity is on our side, which mostly uses Pleroma + forks and Misskey over the PHP atrocity that is Mastodong. Even the Mastodonger forks of the aforementioned software are dogshit (see: ACK-oma, Firefish #RIPBOZO). I don't particularly care which way the vote goes. Let them dig their own grave.
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     NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 03:43:06 JST NEETzsche

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     I agree with everything you say here except this: Mastodong is written in Rails, not PHP. But yeah, I totally agree that the Mastodong side of fedi is by and large self-censored into oblivion. The jannyisms are just too much.

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     NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 04:14:00 JST NEETzsche

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     Don't tempt me to actually write a fedi instance BE in PHP for this reason. Thing is, I think shithosts are going the way of the dodo bird anyway. Nobody uses them. "Just get a VPS" is an answer people will accept.

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     PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 04:14:01 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer

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     @NEETzsche @Tadano @scott @mint if mastodon was php it'd be easier to run given any shithost could run it
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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 04:25:37 JST 

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     @NEETzsche @Tadano @scott @Pawlicker The GNU Social and Friendica teams outran you already.
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     NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 04:44:35 JST NEETzsche

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     Just checked into it, yup, you're right.