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   Robey ☠️ (robey@messydesk.social)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 06:30:21 JST Robey ☠️

   i think you can assume a modern dev machine has python & nodejs... but you can't assume it has a golang compiler or wants one.

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     tech? no! man, see... (technomancy@icosahedron.website)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 06:30:08 JST tech? no! man, see...

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     @robey I will more or less close the tab as soon as I find that something needs node

     not so with python because there's a chance I might be able to install it thru apt, but if it's not in apt and it has more than zero dependencies ... that's not gonna happen

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     tech? no! man, see... (technomancy@icosahedron.website)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 07:00:46 JST tech? no! man, see...

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     • brennen

     @brennen @robey I was about to say "the only thing you can depend upon is that people have bash, make, and gcc" but then I realized there are a lot of gcc-less macs out there somehow

     Falsehoods Programmers Believe About Dev Environments

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     brennen (brennen@federation.p1k3.com)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 07:00:48 JST brennen

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     • tech? no! man, see...

     @technomancy @robey yeah, while i think it's pretty safe to say that mine is atypical of modern dev machines, i won't deliberately get node on any system i don't think of as completely disposable. i'll suffer through python dependency thrash here and there, but only because my work requires it.

     on reflection: i think maybe the possibility space for "dev machine" and what people consider reasonable is too fractured to admit of easy generalizations.