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   augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 04:32:26 JST augustus pugin 🌖
   been reading about Yugoslavia stuff. I thought the 90s wars were confusing, with each of the three regions having three ethnic groups inside them (so 9 factions, croation croats, croatian serbs, croatian bosniaks, bosnian bosniaks..etc.) but when you get to ww2 they also all have either an Axis or Allied allegiance too, so there's basically 18 groups all fighting each other, and some of them like Ustase and Chetniks were allied with each other despite being on opposite sides too, I can't make head or tail of it
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 04:33:05 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     another thing I thought was amusing is that antifa and shitlibs like to big up the ebil fascist nadsi Croatian Ustase during ww2, and tell everybody this group was genocidal and far right and killed lots of non-Croats so you should dislike them. but then when Serbs completely agree with that assessment "yes, they tried to wipe out us Serbs, we must stop and resist them!" the same shitlibs then accuse the Serbs of believing in myth, rumour and fairytale fictions because they aren't supposed to use that narrative to fuel their own nationalism.
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 04:33:46 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     the only thing I can get from any of this is that Austro-Hungary should be back in charge
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     Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 04:35:04 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹

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     At least it would be local government instead of Qatar et al.

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     Jezza™@threads.com (Official) (jeremiah@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 04:48:11 JST Jezza™@threads.com (Official)

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     @augustus more like CHADniks.

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     Komnene (komnene@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 05:21:42 JST Komnene

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     @augustus add the IMRO to that as the cherry on the cake of confusion, fragmentation, intergroup rivalry and overlapping allegiances
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 06-Jan-2024 05:22:04 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @Komnene yeah, I left out Slovenes too. it's insane.
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 03:04:49 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     >The historian Basil Davidson contends that the "recourse to 'ethnicity' as an explanation [of the conflict] is pseudo-scientific nonsense". Even the degree of linguistic and religious differences "have been less substantial than instant commentators routinely tell us".[citation needed] Davidson agrees with Susan Woodward, who found the "motivating causes of the disintegration in economic circumstance and its ferocious pressures".[19] Likewise, Sabine Rutar states that, “while antagonistic representations of the ethnic-national past indeed were heavily (mis-)used during the conflict, one must be careful not to turn these forceful categories of practice into categories of historical analysis”.[20]
     
     libtard historians still cannot even admit that Yugoslavia broke up along ethnic lines lmao. its the uhhh the economic circumstances ok, ethnicity doesn't play a role in conflict ever fuck you ok
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 03:07:09 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     they need to believe in the universal brotherhood of man because its what holds the empire (and communism) together, and Yugoslavia is a gigantic smouldering example of that not working, and their only response is to cope and ignore it.
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 03:09:09 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     >The individual republics organized multi-party elections in 1990, and the former communists mostly failed to win re-election, while most of the elected governments took on nationalist platforms, promising to protect their separate nationalist interests. In multi-party parliamentary elections nationalists defeated re-branded former Communist parties in Slovenia on 8 April 1990, in Croatia on 22 April and 2 May 1990, in Macedonia 11 and 25 November and 9 December 1990, and in Bosnia and Herzegovina on 18 and 25 November 1990.
     what happened is communism as a political formula no longer worked, and the strongest constituent element in Yugoslavia, Serbia, decided to pivot towards a new political formula which was stable for them, which was Serbian nationalism. and this created a new stable point that caused the remaining three republics to break away.
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     Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 03:10:39 JST Christi Junior

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     @augustus Diversity Is Our Strength
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 03:11:48 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @ChristiJunior there is probably a future for the US after it loses its crown that looks quite similar to the Yugoslav wars
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     Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 03:12:48 JST Christi Junior

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     @augustus Communism can only briefly be popular by latching itself onto ideologies and movements that actually ARE popular, like nationalism and anti-colonialism in Vietnam.
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 03:13:55 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @ChristiJunior yeah communism in Eastern Europe basically codes in the same way that Brexit codes for in Britain
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     Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 03:14:49 JST Christi Junior

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     Best case scenario: Brazil
     Realistic scenario: Post-communist Yugoslavia
     Worst case scenario: Radioactive crater
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     ArdainianRight (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 03:21:46 JST ArdainianRight

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     @ChristiJunior @augustus
     Radioactive crater is a more merciful end than the whole country turning into a tranny child rape hellscape a la Portland.
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 08-Jan-2024 03:21:48 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @ArdainianRight @ChristiJunior US would also need something as strong enough as Serb nationalism was for Yugo to help get the ball rolling by alienating everyone else, I'm not sure they have something like that, unless maybe the neocon histrionics
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Jan-2024 02:42:49 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     >Before leaving, General Morillon told the panicked residents of Srebrenica at a public gathering that the town was under the protection of the UN and that he would never abandon them.
     womp womp