msquebanh
Super #Biden supporters enjoy ignoring & discounting the voices of almost all below populations:
- Muslims
- Non-Zionist Jewish
- Many Indigenous
- many black folks
- A ton of immigrants
- a lot of moderates
- almost all youths
- many poor white folks
- 50% of non voters, disillusioned
WTF are Democrats doing in US except saying - we're better than Trump? How the fuck is that a real campaign? It's not. USA govt has become global laughing stock.
USA is a running joke, in global communities.
msquebanh
@northernlights No, I don't. As a POC connected to a lot of marginalized communities in USA & a Canadian, I just think you're foolish as heck for discounting
huge voting populations because y'all believe Biden is your only ticket out of fascism. I know a devil who shows himself as one. I know devils in angel suits get away with mass evils too.
Ppl in US should have more choices than - would you like to be roasted or charboiled because both contenders are willing to put you on a BBQ.
gnutelephony
@msquebanh @northernlights indeed this was the same "brilliant" Peronist election strategy that lead to Milei's landslide in Argentina. Telling people "we can ignore you because you have no choice anyway" is a sure way to piss people off. "Vote blue no matter who" only works when not the party in power that is failing to deliver.
ItsDoctorNotMrs
Hope you enjoy it if Biden loses and everything gets worse for everyone. You'll really be able to smile in superiority as the Trump govt really goes to town on all the oppressed communities you mention.
Do you actually think that things can't get worse?
gnutelephony
@msquebanh @northernlights indeed, this is what I see. The Biden economy is good for suburban whites who would have broken Biden's way anyway, but for those left behind, they are even more so while being told "best economy ever" and "you have no other choice anyway", a kind of fuck you. That is why Trump's poll numbers are climbing most among minorities.
ItsDoctorNotMrs
Biden is not perfect, don't worry, I see it.
Voting is a bus, though, not a taxi. The bus may drop you off right where you want to go or it may drop you a few blocks away and you'll have to walk to get to your destination.
The Biden bus has more promise than the Trump bus, is all. If you really can't see that, then what suggestions do you have to offer?
Failed states really suck, as a look at Ethiopia or Syria shows.
msquebanh
@northernlights @gnutelephony The Biden bus drops most vulnerable folks off at same places Trump bus drops would. Maybe some of you folks will start to understand why more folks who aren't extremists & hate Trump &.GOP won't support Biden either because if you don't - your US elections are screwed no matter what if this is the path you think is the ONLY one.
gnutelephony
@msquebanh @northernlights This is true, too.
msquebanh
@northernlights @gnutelephony Don't listen to me though. Watch what happens in next few months because 2024 isn't looking great for US multiple fronts. Picking fights with China isn't smart when US doesn't have capacity to deal with their new warships & tiny Houthis have hit US military units. This is start of Global South path of rising up & they have more angry allies than Western states. They have people who have suffered so long under Western exploitive influences - they're willing to die.
msquebanh
@gnutelephony @northernlights China has solidified military base in midst of this & if push came to shove - they won't be helping US. China has spent last 25 yrs building working relationships with almost every single country that US ignored, harmed or thought lesser of than. They can cripple entire US in less than a couple of months. I don't like that but it is a reality that US plays down because they can't admit weakness. Ppl in US forgot there was no IS prior to US invasion on Iraq.
gnutelephony
@msquebanh @northernlights China has made some mistakes, too. The situation with the Philippines was theirs to turn against the US, especially given the history, instead the Philippines is doubling down on US support. But their mistakes generally are still much smaller.
gnutelephony
@msquebanh @northernlights I am not a fan of having govt in general ;). But long ago I concluded hypocrisy is the one true western "value". Right now the US seems determined to double down on selfish and cruel, and that will spillover into the rest of the world too.
msquebanh
@gnutelephony @northernlights I'm NOT a fan of Chinese govt, especially under Xi. I just think it's hypocrisy when US criticizes China - when US has been the global warmongering bully & so bent on controlling rest of the world - in nations they're unwanted & should LEAVE - yet, have no control over their own country & gun violence kills their kids weekly.
USA & Canada & EU needs at least a decade of duncehat timeouts til they learn coexistence is never achieved by violence & lack of humanity.
msquebanh
@northernlights @gnutelephony I will, in Canada. We don't want Trump back there but you folks are going to ensure he gets back in because you're banking everything on Biden. You folks in US will suffer, either way - with either of these unfit for POTUS position.
Good luck. Americans will need a miracle during elections if this is their only path.
gnutelephony
@msquebanh @northernlights the dems own actions are currently locking in a Trump election as assuredly as the Peronists managed to get Milei a landslide. It's not even Biden being a terrible candidate (though in some ways he clearly is), but them being a terribly ineffective party for anyone outside of their donors, too.
msquebanh
@gnutelephony @northernlights You'll forgot money$$$$.
ItsDoctorNotMrs
Yep. Well, enjoy your freedom to publicly declare your political views when & where you like, because I don't see it continuing with Trump (who openly emulates Putin and admires Xi).
Cheers, I'm out.
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