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The key with big mixes is more cores / threads Generally, a daw will attempt to stick a centralized process on to a separate core / thread. So generally, each track will be on a separate core / thread, until they're processed through a common bus that contains a plugin. Then they all get stuck on the same core / thread. So on and so forth. This is why you never stick plugins on master until midtown.
When you're running multiple layers of guitars, drums, vox, etc each with their own plugin chain, you need a lot of power and speed.
It's not uncommon for me to run two instances of superior drummer three with the tracks broken out. 40+ tracks just for the kits that feed into 10 busses. That feed into four busses. That feed into a final drum bus at midtown. And that's just the drums. Don't ask me about a guitar chain.
I can easily choke 36 threads if I don't set the chains up right. Even then I have to be careful prior to mixdown.
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I always just do one instance, but do 32 out if I'm gonna do stuff with busses.
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my guitar chain is usually super simple, as I just record my amp and do some eq as needed
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I'm actually a great drummer, but a mediocre guitar player. I've played almost every day for 30 years. The problem with drums is that they're a shitshow to record for a number of reasons, from bleed, to having to do a lot of minor time correction (I do this with any instrument though, dont ask about melodyne and vocal comping), and hand cutting the dead areas on each track between hits, etc.
Honestly, superior drummer can sound just as good, if not better, than a live kit, if you know what you're doing, and editing can be a bit easier. Plus, I have a few mandala usb drums, so that helps too.
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I'm a decent guitar player, decent bass player, and shit piano player. Drums are always an afterthought for me, I make my whole project using one of the stock ezdrummer midis, then make a custom one towards the end. Trying to compose drumlines that don't sound like shit is kinda tiring for me, but I also haven't touched a drum kit so I shouldn't be surprised
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Use more than one snare. Layer them (check for phasing). You could also use high pass / low pass filters to create a cross over between them.
Always side chain compress the bass line and any dropped guitars to the kick.
Use multiple kicks. One acoustic, one electronic (high pass/low pass and mix to give the acoustic punch. It should sound like part of the acoustic drum), and possibly a sine wave generator set low, 33 to 100hz with a fast gate that is sidechained to the kick for subbass). Whether you can get the gate to open and close quick enough and without artifacts is another issue, and may depend on the plugins.
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bookmarked, hopefully this will make my drums slightly less horrible.
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@burner @Humpleupagus @kirby @mischievoustomato @Kirino @threat it comes with 8 drums presets and 16 different sounds for each preset. It's pretty epic I don't think you'll find any problem. The best presets are the 808 and the jazz one.