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    Tokyo Outsider (337ppm) (tokyo_0@mas.to)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 12:11:33 JST Tokyo Outsider (337ppm) Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)
    • Jason Lefkowitz

    @jalefkowit "Developers have poured out sweat over the last couple of decades to get you working in ways that make it hard to scale like crazy."

    What do you think has been the driver for that?

    In conversation Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 12:11:33 JST from mas.to permalink
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      Cegorach (drazraeltod@chaos.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 18:26:39 JST Cegorach Cegorach
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      @tokyo_0 we all tend to fall into the "yeah, but I can't use the old stuff, because MY PROBLEMS ARE COMPLICATED!" hole.

      so we reinvent the wheel and overcomplicate solutions

      sometimes we're somewhat correct in that, but most of the times it's just in error

      and then the solutions not only have to support YOUR complex stuff, but everone elses complex stuff too. The simple use-case tends to get ignored, because that's solved already.

      You don't become a hero by solving how to butter bread.

      In conversation Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 18:26:39 JST permalink

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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 10:52:47 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      • Jason Lefkowitz

      @tokyo_0 @jalefkowit As I remember the driving force was a few particularly bad giant corporations not devs, and the motivations were to optimize for being able to hire low pay frontend devs without collective bargaining power for everything, and each building their own pet frameworks devs would get accustomed to, to reduce mobility between their big competitors.

      In conversation Friday, 05-Jan-2024 10:52:47 JST permalink
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      lolcat (lolcat@digipres.club)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 10:53:32 JST lolcat lolcat
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      • Rich Felker
      • Jason Lefkowitz

      @dalias @tokyo_0 @jalefkowit
      In my experience, this gets closer to the truth. Same explanation for "Why cloud?" - namely, that the OPEX-aligned management won in their fight against the CAPEX peeps. Most big tech currents are really buisiness currents, when you peek under the hood.

      In conversation Friday, 05-Jan-2024 10:53:32 JST permalink
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      feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 05-Jan-2024 10:55:20 JST feld feld
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      • Jason Lefkowitz
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      @lolcat @dalias @tokyo_0 @jalefkowit taxes are taxes
      In conversation Friday, 05-Jan-2024 10:55:20 JST permalink

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