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   starkrg@myside-yourside.net's status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 22:30:16 JST StarkRG

   • Thomas 🔭🕹️

   @thomasfuchs Because Apple (and Google) only care about user safety and privacy as far as they're required to. Occasionally they'll make a big announcement of some safety/privacy/security features, but that's just for PR. If they can get away with making a token effort (and they definitely can), that's as much as they'll do. *Maybe* if enough people make a fuss over things like this, they'll make a token effort to stop it, but they'll only go as far as they have to to quell the discontent.

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 00:14:00 JST feld

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️
     @thomasfuchs how else would you permit HTML rendering in an app without allowing them to ship their own browser engine?
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     elsupreme@mastodon.sdf.org's status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 00:50:34 JST ElSupreme

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs

     Looks at steam icon on my taskbar. 🫠

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     Sebastian Gräßl (bastilian@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 00:53:35 JST Sebastian Gräßl

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs well, every Electron app essentially.

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     Sebastian Gräßl (bastilian@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 01:04:57 JST Sebastian Gräßl

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs I see what you mean, but i think there is not much difference. Some Electron apps do actually pull resources the same way as they would in a browser, but use caching mechanisms to not always do it. Slack and Discord do things like this I think to have 100% parity between web and "desktop".

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     Bernd (bernd@ruhr.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 01:14:59 JST Bernd

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     • Thomas 🔭🕹️
     • @infosec_jcp 🐈🃏 done differently

     @infosec_jcp @thomasfuchs my thought was rather, Edge and Brave et al use chromium. One could argue that is an in-app browser config. Edge being the app, chromium the browser.

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     @infosec_jcp 🐈🃏 done differently (infosec_jcp@infosec.exchange)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 01:15:01 JST @infosec_jcp 🐈🃏 done differently

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     • Thomas 🔭🕹️
     • Bernd

     @bernd @thomasfuchs

     Perhaps you are thinking about 'gmail and it's in app browser, Chrome'?

     Maybe this long list of ' apps but with built in web browsers ' perhaps? 🤔

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     Bernd (bernd@ruhr.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 01:15:02 JST Bernd

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs do Chrome-based browsers have an in-app browser? 🤔

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     Bernd (bernd@ruhr.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 01:28:04 JST Bernd

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️
     • @infosec_jcp 🐈🃏 done differently

     @thomasfuchs @infosec_jcp don't want to nitpick, I am genuily curious here.

     When opening a Safari in-app view in an iOS app, isn't that the same way a browser engine rendering stuff than chromium in Edge?

     The comparison does not really match, arguably. But still...

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     Jeremy (jeromio@triangletoot.party)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 04:58:39 JST Jeremy

     • Thomas 🔭🕹️

     @thomasfuchs
     How would they disable in-app browsers in their app store? How is Firefox not an "in-app" browser?
     Also, it may perhaps be foolish to depend on one giant corporation to protect consumers from another giant corporation...