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   Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jan-2024 05:13:25 JST Machismo
   🤔 Can I really justify FLAC?
   I don't even notice the difference, my ears can't pick it up. But I operate on the assumption that Bandcamp will go full assrape tomorrow.
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     ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jan-2024 05:13:25 JST ロミンちゃん

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     @Zerglingman not now but someday you'll suffer the effects of rotational velocidensity
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     Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jan-2024 05:22:59 JST Machismo

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     • ロミンちゃん
     @romin 🤔 As in disk decay?
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     ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jan-2024 05:22:59 JST ロミンちゃん

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     @Zerglingman
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     ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jan-2024 06:01:08 JST ロミンちゃん

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     @SuperSnekFriend @Zerglingman my anime music stored on cheap drives... all gone! :l_aaa:
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     ?uper?nekFriend ? (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jan-2024 06:01:09 JST ?uper?nekFriend ?

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     • ロミンちゃん
     @romin @Zerglingman Classic pasta!
     
     Here's mine:
     
     power effects color of sound diferent power supplies effect the sound your fully digital external dac provides or internal. this isn't even up for debate. and further to that digital audio does get corrupted by noise from the power in the processing and other complicated shit. you guys have such a simplistic view of audio processing even for digital.
     
     you realize that audio produced in ableton pro tools studio1 and lots of different programs literally sounds different even if you input the same audio file. for a simplistic way of looking at it they have different kinds of anti aliasing for the "digital" wave form that is in steps but its far more complicated than that and different ranges of sound sound different in different digital audio workstations based on how they are processed.
     
     even playing back audio in diferent music players produces different sound its not as simple as it being 0 and 1 so it all sounds the same its very complex and I'm not talking about EQ or some thing simple its actually how they are programmed.
     
     and yes digital files degrade sure if you put them on a HDD and unplug it and store it for 100 years it will sound the same but it will corrupt over 1-2 years and its so subtle that torrent programs will stay its still 100% checked but it will sound different to when you originally downloaded it because the hash checks are not that accurate.
     
     you guys need to look into audio more clearly you have just been the FLAC generation and think its simplistic its not a super large flac will actually degrade faster than a low KBS mp3.
     
     do some research.
     
     things like SATA noise reduction and isolating the power of your USB3.0 to a external source will make your audio degrade slower and output cleaner.
     
     lots of audiophile stuff is excessive and stupid like insulating of wires etc but the stuff this company sells is actually legit.
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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jan-2024 10:33:53 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     @Zerglingman Still waiting on this cassette i order a year ago (its likey never going to come :alex_lol: )
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     thegreatape (thegreatape@thechimp.zone)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jan-2024 10:34:15 JST thegreatape

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     I recently started hoarding flacs subscribing to the thought of "Get the highest quality first, then compress it down later if needed". I can barely hear a difference between flacs and 320 kbps mp3 (or even vorbis), but I REALLY can tell the difference as soon as you get to 256 kbps or lower. I actually have an album that says it's 320 kbps and I'm pretty sure someone converted 128 kbps files to 320 kbps and put that online. The sound is just all jacked up.
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 01:20:27 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • :mima_rule: Mima-sama
     @mima @Zerglingman >wav is twice as heavy as flac
     what the FUCK is microsoft smoking
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     :mima_rule: Mima-sama (mima@makai.chaotic.ninja)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 01:20:28 JST :mima_rule: Mima-sama

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     @Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com Lossless exist for those people who still burn to CD so if you're into archival then yeah you can justify it. :akyuu_headphones: Otherwise if you're just a casual listener, any of the lossy formats will do. :cirno_fumo_yes:

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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 01:23:49 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • :mima_rule: Mima-sama
     @mima @Zerglingman and it's lossy, isn't it? i don't remember at this point
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     :mima_rule: Mima-sama (mima@makai.chaotic.ninja)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 01:23:50 JST :mima_rule: Mima-sama

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     • Lina Inver?e

     @lina@eientei.org WAVE is literally just a simple container for raw PCM audio, no compression whatsoever applied
     
     And there are multiple versions of WAVE, not just Microsoft
     
     @Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com

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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 01:26:35 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • :mima_rule: Mima-sama
     @Zerglingman @mima well the fact that it's twice as heavy as flac, i really hope it is lossless because that's an epic fail of a file format then
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     Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 01:26:36 JST Machismo

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     • :mima_rule: Mima-sama
     @lina @mima I don't think wav should be lossy.
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 01:27:39 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • :mima_rule: Mima-sama
     @Zerglingman @mima roop? is that swat 2?
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     Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 01:27:40 JST Machismo

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     • Lina Inver?e
     • :mima_rule: Mima-sama
     @lina @mima also roop?
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 01:28:17 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • :mima_rule: Mima-sama
     @Zerglingman @mima o i c
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     Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 01:28:18 JST Machismo

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     • :mima_rule: Mima-sama
     @lina @mima It's Tragedy Looper.
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 01:29:09 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • :mima_rule: Mima-sama
     @mima @Zerglingman ah, that's good, so it's basically just worse flac from my POV cuz i can't tell the difference between lossy and lossless formats unless the frequencies or the compression are fucked up
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     :mima_rule: Mima-sama (mima@makai.chaotic.ninja)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 01:29:11 JST :mima_rule: Mima-sama

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     • Lina Inver?e

     @lina@eientei.org There are some versions of WAVE that are lossy IIRC, but those are the obscure, weird ones
     
     The common WAVE format including Microsoft's is lossless
     
     Think of it as FLAC decompressed. it's definitely gonna be huge as it's always 1.4 Mbits per second
     
     @Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com

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     :mima_rule: Mima-sama (mima@makai.chaotic.ninja)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 01:30:57 JST :mima_rule: Mima-sama

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     • Lina Inver?e

     @lina@eientei.org (Btw 1.4 Mbits per sec only applies for the standard CD audio which is stereo 16-bit 44.1khz. May be even larger if it's another encoding like DVD Audio which may have more than two channels and a higher sample rate and bit encoding like 24-bit)
     
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     :mima_rule: Mima-sama (mima@makai.chaotic.ninja)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 01:32:33 JST :mima_rule: Mima-sama

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     • Lina Inver?e

     @lina@eientei.org Yeah pretty much. There's no reason to get the WAV version at all unless you really don't have a player that supports FLAC or ALAC. But even then you could just decode that losslessly compressed audio into wav and play that into your player... :sagume_think:
     
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 01:34:25 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • :mima_rule: Mima-sama
     @mima @Zerglingman i just listen to mp3 and that's it, also m4a's but that's cuz the torrents i dl'd sometimes had those instead of mp3, seems like it's the same as mp3 but DRM'd somehow by crapple, but i had no trouble playing em so yeah
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     :mima_rule: Mima-sama (mima@makai.chaotic.ninja)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 01:36:04 JST :mima_rule: Mima-sama

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     • Lina Inver?e

     @Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com Maybe they want to play their music into a hardware music player separate from their computer. There are plenty of old players that don't support FLAC but will happily play MP3s and WAVs
     
     @lina@eientei.org

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     Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 01:36:05 JST Machismo

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     • :mima_rule: Mima-sama
     @mima @lina Assuming you have access to a converter is approximately the same as assuming you have access to a player.
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Jan-2024 01:36:27 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • :mima_rule: Mima-sama
     @mima @Zerglingman i can see myself doing that, but that's just a matter of ffmpeg'ing files i need into mp3