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   mhoye (mhoye@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 18:55:40 JST mhoye

   As someone coming off a decade of working there, I can tell you with some confidence that “you should use Firefox despite Mozilla’s leadership” is far more true and has been true far longer than you realize.

   But you should also understand that original market-share vs ceo salary meme is a creation of Brendan Eich, presumably born of a grudge, and notably elided his tenure as CTO, during which the worst of that decline happened.

   You should still use Firefox though.

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     datarama (datarama@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 18:55:39 JST datarama

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     @mhoye I've used Firefox since back when it was named Phoenix, and I'll continue to do so for as long as I can.

     My own frustration with the Mozilla leadership is about specifically this: I *want* to keep using Firefox (and I *don't* want to use Chrome!), but they seem to keep making decisions that make me worry they're going to destroy it.

     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: likes this.
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     your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦 (blogdiva@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 02:16:37 JST your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

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     • Neo-Rodneyite ✍🏿📖
     • Danilo Campos 🇵🇷

     @jalcine @danilo @mhoye it's the money.

     Google pays Mozilla as a wink-wink nudge-nudge to monopoly regulators... while also greasing the palms of said regulators.

     at the end of the day, the CEO/Corp business model doesn't work for FLOSS. it has to be owned by the community of developers and users. if not, you end up with some dudes skinning cryptominers with Chromium and calling it a day.

     the issue isn't herding the community, it's changing the business hierarchy completely.

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     Julien W. (julienw@pouet.chapril.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 02:16:37 JST Julien W.

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     • Neo-Rodneyite ✍🏿📖
     • your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦
     • Danilo Campos 🇵🇷

     @blogdiva A lot of good FLOSS are developed by Corps, just as a lot of good FLOSS are developed by communities, so I guess both models are valid.
     @jalcine @danilo @mhoye

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     Neo-Rodneyite ✍🏿📖 (jalcine@todon.eu)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 02:16:38 JST Neo-Rodneyite ✍🏿📖

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     • Danilo Campos 🇵🇷

     @danilo @mhoye I keep hearing it's too hard for communities and that confuses me so much because they're communities who build so many parts of it. Is it the herding?

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     Danilo Campos 🇵🇷 (danilo@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jan-2024 02:16:40 JST Danilo Campos 🇵🇷

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     @mhoye a question that’s been burbling since I read this last night:

     How far outside the scope of possible is community-led development of a browser? Can the next chapter of the web have a viable, feature-complete browser for the people and by the people, or is that too complex an endeavor without a serious payroll?