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   Jack Yan (甄爵恩) (jackyan@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 05:23:36 JST Jack Yan (甄爵恩)

   Who are these people that #ChatGPT says co-founded #Lucire with me? Iʼve never heard of them. Is ChatGPTʼs programming so racist it canʼt handle a person of colour as a sole founder so it adds white-sounding names to the story?

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 05:23:35 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @jackyan How would chatGPT even know you are a person of color. Why would assume its racist and not just stupid?

     Dont get me wrong ChatGPT can be racist, I'm just curious how you made this particular leap.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 06:55:23 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @jackyan

     Guess you didnʼt have to put up with this racist stuff in your country!

     Why would you think a native american in the USA wouldn’t have to deal with it? Probably one of the races that has experienced the most racism considering virtually all my people are murdered at this point and we have handfuls left…

     publicaddress.net/onpoint/my-last-name-sounds-chinese/

     If itʼs pulling data from the web and everyday people, then itʼll mirror them, like the last time Microsoft attempted this.

     So the answer to my question was “It doesnt know who i am but it does know im not of eurpean descent from my last name and from that can infer racist things”… thats a perfectly fine answer, thank you for explaining your view.

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     Jack Yan (甄爵恩) (jackyan@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 06:55:24 JST Jack Yan (甄爵恩)

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     @freemo Guess you didnʼt have to put up with this racist stuff in your country!

     https://publicaddress.net/onpoint/my-last-name-sounds-chinese/

     If itʼs pulling data from the web and everyday people, then itʼll mirror them, like the last time Microsoft attempted this.

     https://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11297050/tay-microsoft-chatbot-racist

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 07:16:32 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     Oh you didnt mean me putting up with racism towards me. You mean more generally racism in my country.

     Yes we got more than enough racism, trust me I dont doubt you and plenty of people expirnece it, including from ChatGPT. I was just confused how ChatGPT could even know your race. You pointed out your last name and now it makes sense.

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     Jack Yan (甄爵恩) (jackyan@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 07:16:33 JST Jack Yan (甄爵恩)

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     @freemo No, I meant that specific example of a political party inferring race (hence providing a link!), not that Native Americans have never faced racism, which is an incredibly moronic and virtually impossible position to advance. This country is currently going backwards with regard to native rights so of course we are aware, probably more aware, of what Native Americans had to go through, than the average person. Sigh.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 07:26:21 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @jackyan Sadly there are few natives left who are actually full-blooded, so very few native last names survive.

     I am obviously mixed and my last name is not native. But I have great respect for my native side even if it is fractional.

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     Jack Yan (甄爵恩) (jackyan@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 07:26:22 JST Jack Yan (甄爵恩)

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     @freemo I simply meant that one example of how ChatGPT might have figured out my race, in response to your question, because it was precedent. I know of what First People suffered, and how advanced your societies were before the later arrivals brought their diseases over, but as I donʼt know what surnames you use today since there are so many tribes each with distinct cultures, I imagined you couldnʼt be grouped and targeted as easily.
     This 2015 incident was quite a big thing here.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 07:31:37 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @jackyan As far as I know it they didnt have fore and surnames. It depended largely on the tribe how they named, but people knew eachother, the world was much smaller. Names would be things like "Standing Bear" or something roughly translated.

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     Jack Yan (甄爵恩) (jackyan@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 07:31:38 JST Jack Yan (甄爵恩)

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     @freemo Iʼd love to see what those surnames look like in their original tongue. Iʼm going to look it up. Well, itʼs nice to meet someone who can trace part of their lineage back to original Americans.

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 07:35:24 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @jackyan My Native American heritage is Penobscot tribe. and sadly a lot of the knowledge wasnt passed down to me, but I took time to visit some survivng natives from the tribe once I learned about my heritage.

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     Jack Yan (甄爵恩) (jackyan@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 07:35:26 JST Jack Yan (甄爵恩)

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     @freemo I donʼt know how accurate this is, but it was fascinating to me as a non-American:

     https://imagerestorationcenter.com/most-common-native-american-surnames/

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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 07:58:34 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @jackyan Yea we were more north. My white side came over on the first boats to colonize here, it was the tribe around that area at that time as well as more northward into Canada.

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     Jack Yan (甄爵恩) (jackyan@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 30-Dec-2023 07:58:35 JST Jack Yan (甄爵恩)

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     @freemo Thatʼs really cool that you did that. The connection is important IMO. Iʼm pretty much in exile here but luckily thereʼs a good community of my people.
     Iʼll look up your tribe now. Iʼm pretty ignorant of the nations and tribes there other than the more famous ones in white culture (e.g. Cherokee). Here itʼs been a wonderful journey to learn about the Māori tribes and language as we werenʼt taught them at school.