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   Erin 💽 (erincandescent@queer.af)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 10:38:07 JST Erin 💽

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   • james

   @james anyway basically CCC (and the similar but smaller events) are kinda unique in many ways and so you end up with a situation where people moan about them and try to complain from within because there's not really any alternative equivalents

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     Erin 💽 (erincandescent@queer.af)'s status on Friday, 29-Dec-2023 10:38:09 JST Erin 💽

     • james

     @james CCC has always been more of a nerd get-together rather than a conference. Yeah, there's talks, but basically nobody spends the majority of their time at the talks.

     Congress (which i've been to three times, though not this year) and the vaguely-overlapping camps (CCCamp, EMFCamp, the Dutch camps which change name every time) is kinda just a nerd gatherhing where everyone goes all out with the lighting/aesthetics/etc and friends from all over the continent gathered in one place. Its kinda incomparable to a typical conference.

     But also yeah there are increasing amounts of disagreement between many of the attendees, the various volunteer teams (NOC, VOC, POC, etc) and leadership at CCC eV ("the" Chaos Computer Club) and CCCV (the speical-purpose-events-company)

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