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   Anti. 🐘 (antiaall3s@chaos.social)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 18:01:11 JST Anti. 🐘

   #37c3

   "All creatures welcome*"

   *except immuno-compromised, chronically ill and many disabled creatures.

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 18:01:04 JST Jay Baker

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     @antiaall3s These are superb points that are provoking me to think about how we could better organise and hold events even if there was no pandemic. So: thank you!

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     Anti. 🐘 (antiaall3s@chaos.social)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 18:01:06 JST Anti. 🐘

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     My disappointment that this crowd in Hamburg fell into this "back to normal" obsession, pushing for that huge gathering, and despite the fact that COVID-infection numbers are huge at the moment, almost worldwide, is also because i am convinced that this crowd could so easily have conceived and planned wonderful decentralized events. They have the technological know-how, they understand data, they have the right attitude (all creatures are welcome). Plus they always joked about "Kongress-seuche".

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     Anti. 🐘 (antiaall3s@chaos.social)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 18:01:08 JST Anti. 🐘

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     I think the time for these large gatherings crammed into one venue is over. It is time to switch to decentralized forms of getting together with the help of streaming networks. Think of how easy diseases will spread in huge gatherings. Think of the carbon footprint of all these people flying there. Think of all the responsibility & power piled onto a core group of organizers. But also think of all the people that get excluded. Small gatherings can be much better geared to specific needs. #37c3

     Jay Baker repeated this.
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     Anti. 🐘 (antiaall3s@chaos.social)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 18:01:10 JST Anti. 🐘

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     "Von erfahrenen Zeremonienmeistern wird Euch hier der notwendige Schwung verpasst, geschmeidig durch den Congress zu gleiten und die Vorfreude zu atmen"

     Atmen?

     Wer hat das formuliert. #CovidIsNotOver #37c3

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 02:10:42 JST Jay Baker

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     @antiaall3s Yeah, I'm growing tired of such supposedly radical groups. Punks over poseurs every step of the way, I say. Fuck denialists everywhere; we're building our own radical networks now. They'll learn first by our actions, then later on (if indeed it's not too late) literally learn from our communal care collectives. It didn't have to be this way.

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     Anti. 🐘 (antiaall3s@chaos.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 02:10:43 JST Anti. 🐘

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     It must have been pure masochism on my part to watch this. I am depressed now. I have lost another one of my affinity communities.

     Life is no longer worth it.

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     Anti. 🐘 (antiaall3s@chaos.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 02:10:45 JST Anti. 🐘

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     And Frank and Fefe, at the start of their talk, naming the things the will not talk about, one of the first things they named:

     COVID.

     I have not seen one talk dealing with this topic, and one that, mind you, could have offered many topics for exploration from all kinds of angles.

     Fefe added: Das war ein furchtbares Jammertal. That was an awful vale of tears. Placing it in the past.

     Well, first of all the pandemic is ongoing. And secondly, it has banned some of us into that vale forever.

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     Anti. 🐘 (antiaall3s@chaos.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 02:10:46 JST Anti. 🐘

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     During the opening talk the dude first stretched his arms up in air, took a deep, audible breath, to say: oh how great it is to be here.

     Then he read from the description of the talk "die Vorfreude zu atmen", to breathe in anticipation.

     Again with the "breath". Why? While some of us can't breathe anymore because of #COVID19.

     Next he said, "ich kann eure Vorfreude riechen", he can smell the anticipation in people's faces. While many of us have lost our sense of smell.

     I mean come on. #37C3

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     Anti. 🐘 (antiaall3s@chaos.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 02:10:48 JST Anti. 🐘

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     • linuzifer

     When @linuzifer speaks about what gives him hope - to be or live the solution - and then claims that the congress is an example of this, to me this feels like a stab in the back. Because your "lived solution" excludes people like me, and as such is an ableist version of the world, one that excludes people (like myself) from participating. Not once during #37C3 (i didn't listen to all talks, but) have i heard a speaker address our exclusion or greet those warmly, who were forced to stay remote.

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     Trekhausen (she/her) (trekhausen@todon.eu)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 02:21:50 JST Trekhausen (she/her)

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     • Jay Baker

     @MediaActivist @antiaall3s 100% agree! We have got each other's backs and will keep having them, as we collectively build our own intersectional radical resistance and care networks. This shit is hard but we will build new ways of doing things, connecting and being there for each other. #Solidarity