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   Emelia 👸🏻 (thisismissem@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 00:43:12 JST Emelia 👸🏻

   • Evan Prodromou

   I think there's actually a middle ground between Big Fedi and Small Fedi, as mentioned by @evan — perhaps we call it "medium fedi" or "just right fedi"

   RE: https://evanp.me/2023/12/26/big-fedi-small-fedi/

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     Emelia 👸🏻 (thisismissem@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 00:45:33 JST Emelia 👸🏻

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     Individuals alone likely can't keep the fediverse sustainable for ever, especially after a decade or two of "free* everything"

     People need to be paid for their labour. Servers and reliable infrastructure costs money. Open source projects need funding.

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     Emelia 👸🏻 (thisismissem@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 00:45:34 JST Emelia 👸🏻

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     Companies will probably also want tools that help their engagement be understood: are we in positive standing or negative? Are we contributing positively to the fediverse or having a negative effect & getting blocked / banned.

     Companies may also be the reason E2EE DMs finally happen, because they'll want good secure channels to communicate with customers on, without having to leave the fediverse.

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     Emelia 👸🏻 (thisismissem@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 00:45:36 JST Emelia 👸🏻

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     We do need well behaved corporate accounts, because that's really useful on social media (e.g., telekom_hilft on Twitter was able to resolve issues 1000x better than any other channel with Telekom)

     But we also don't want to optimise for corporations, and if your company does horrible shit you'll likely find yourself on the wrong side of social discourse: this is normal.

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     Emelia 👸🏻 (thisismissem@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 00:45:37 JST Emelia 👸🏻

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     That is to say, there are some good ideas on both sides of the "big fedi" and "small fedi".

     Most of all we need "sustainable fedi".

     A fediverse where we can both keep people safe, but also have a sizeable population because people don't want to be alone on the fedi.

     We need moderation that scales and has repeatable practices, but we also need humans involved, and understanding how moderation can harm marginalised communities & reinforces cis-hetero-normative white ideals.

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     Emelia 👸🏻 (thisismissem@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 00:45:38 JST Emelia 👸🏻

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     We need to acknowledge that an instance with more and more users does lead to worse moderation, but also need to ensure that humans are involved in moderation decisions and it's not just a machine.

     A server with 1 billion users is almost certainly going to be unmoderated at a high quality because there's simple too much work involved. But that doesn't necessarily mean a 100 or 1000 user server is well moderated either.

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     Rachel Lawson (rachel@norfolk.social)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 03:04:31 JST Rachel Lawson

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @thisismissem @evan if the w3c said that was the correct way forward, would it be Right Said Fedi??

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     Ben Werdmuller (ben@werd.social)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 03:25:35 JST Ben Werdmuller

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @thisismissem @evan I, uh, also have a slightly more verbose contribution to the discourse https://werd.io/2023/big-fedi-small-fedi

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     Ben Werdmuller (ben@werd.social)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 03:25:36 JST Ben Werdmuller

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @thisismissem @evan Fedium

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 03:38:53 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Rachel Lawson

     @rachel @thisismissem I think you're talking about the scary game and movie Five Nights at Fedi.

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     Rachel Lawson (rachel@norfolk.social)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 03:39:05 JST Rachel Lawson

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @thisismissem @evan to be honest, I was doing something similar, with a terrible English pop band 😅

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     Emelia 👸🏻 (thisismissem@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 28-Dec-2023 03:39:06 JST Emelia 👸🏻

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     • Rachel Lawson

     @rachel @evan idk, I was mildly making a three bears joke with the language here 😅