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   Rimu (rimu@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Dec-2023 05:42:45 JST Rimu

   There needs to be consequences for getting lots of downvotes.

   One of those could be something like this, where everyone can see that you get downvoted a lot and decide whether and how to engage with you in future.

   #lemmy #PieFed #fediverse

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     Rimu (rimu@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Dec-2023 13:21:32 JST Rimu

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     • Jeff Sikes
     • Andres Jalinton

     @Andres @box464 Yeah, hmm...

     I'm also planning on adding a "attitude" stat which is the ratio of upvotes vs downvotes a person does. I'm not sure where and how that data would be displayed or acted upon but people who downvote excessivly will be noticed.

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     Andres Jalinton (andres@mastodon.hardcoredevs.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Dec-2023 13:21:34 JST Andres Jalinton

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     • Jeff Sikes

     @rimu
     @box464
     What if the downvotes are harassment? Then you have a legitimate user being ignored by everyone because some group decided they don't agree with them.

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     Rimu (rimu@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Dec-2023 13:32:16 JST Rimu

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     • Jeff Sikes
     • Andres Jalinton

     @Andres @box464 Yes, it's a fun topic, and hard.

     I'm also enabling site owners to designate certain communities as "low quality" (invisible to members), which are places where upvotes received do not increase your reputation 😉

     Endless possibilities.

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     Andres Jalinton (andres@mastodon.hardcoredevs.com)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Dec-2023 13:32:18 JST Andres Jalinton

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     • Jeff Sikes

     @rimu @box464
     Myself I have thought a lot about "self moderation tools". It's an interesting but very hard topic, like you can define "higher quality" indicators like moderators downvotes (this can only help to certain extent if the ratio is doable) you can assign more "priority" to older users or hide downvotes like youtube, so there is less bias to "follow the example".

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     Rimu (rimu@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Dec-2023 14:48:53 JST Rimu

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     • Jeff Sikes
     • Andres Jalinton

     @box464 @Andres Oof, I'm really not keen on AI-assigned scores. And they let the D-rated accounts continue to post??? Now that's weird.

     There could be value in using simple "AI" to flag accounts for manual mod review. I've been thinking a lot about fascist detection. It should be doable, for the most obvious ones (pepe profile pic, 88 in the user name, posting 4chan screenshots, that kind of thing). Some image recognition machine learning and keyword filters would get me 90% there.

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     Jeff Sikes (box464@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Dec-2023 14:48:55 JST Jeff Sikes

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     • Andres Jalinton

     @rimu @Andres Not related to bad behavior, but Phanpy displays a ratio of interaction types on the profile page. See “Last 20 posts in the past X days” section. You have to click it to see the ratio tho. Might spark some ideas.

     Also, this is sounding a bit like Spoutible’s Bot Sentinel rating. An algorithm decides if you’re good/bad and assigns a letter grade. Users can decide to hide or limit others with a low letter grade.

     https://help.spoutible.com/support/solutions/articles/150000050110-ratings-explained

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     Rimu (rimu@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 03:45:33 JST Rimu

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     • Jeff Sikes
     • Andres Jalinton
     • Joe Germuska

     @JoeGermuska @box464 @Andres Yes, possibly... But any data you make available over ActivityPub is technically public so it's not great to put sensitive information in there.

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     Joe Germuska (joegermuska@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 07-Jan-2024 03:45:34 JST Joe Germuska

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     • Jeff Sikes
     • Andres Jalinton

     @rimu @box464 @Andres an idea which surely needs more time to bake, but what if webfinger queries included some accounting of that server's knowledge of the account's reputation. Different services could act on that in different ways.