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   ᛋᚪᛒᛖᛋ 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇦🇺 (sabex@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Dec-2023 21:34:05 JST ᛋᚪᛒᛖᛋ 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇦🇺

   Nope, no forgiveness, no way, no sir. Not ever.

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Dec-2023 21:34:03 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Tl;dr fuck these people.
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     sj_zero (sj_zero@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Dec-2023 21:34:04 JST sj_zero

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     My wife and I have been talking about the concept of forgiveness.
     
     Thing is, you can't truly forgive someone unless they're repentant. If they don't think they've done anything wrong then you really can't forgive them because in their minds there's nothing to forgive.
     
     Considering that we can see right now they're still doing the same things they did during COVID just in other areas of life, they're completely unrepentant. They want to be 'forgiven' because they're done with that particular thing but they're still using the same tactics for all the stuff they're still interested in, forcing what they want down everyone's throats the same way.
     
     Everyone remembers "Judge not lest ye be judged", but few people remember the next part: "Go and sin no more".
     
     It might be that you have to let go of old hatred for your own sake even if the other person is unrepentant, but that's much different than giving someone who is unrepentant full amnesty for their actions. It's a big difference, and the two forms of forgiveness mean something quite different in practical terms.
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     Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺 (ned@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Dec-2023 21:37:24 JST Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺

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     @sj_zero @Sabex I would say forgiveness without repentance is biblically what we'd call grace.

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     ᛋᚪᛒᛖᛋ 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇦🇺 (sabex@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Thursday, 21-Dec-2023 15:08:42 JST ᛋᚪᛒᛖᛋ 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇦🇺

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     • Baroness Love @ Light ☦

     @baronessloveandlight @sj_zero the thing that really starts the healing process is contrition and reparations by the wrongdoer. No forgiveness and no healing until the man-price is paid one way or the other.

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     Sir Funk ?? (sophistifunk@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Thursday, 21-Dec-2023 15:08:42 JST Sir Funk ??

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     • Baroness Love @ Light ☦

     @Sabex @baronessloveandlight @sj_zero there’s no healing. All these cunts will sell us out to the man as soon as the tv tells them to, even when we haven’t actually done anything to anybody. It’s probably not better that we know, but it’s too fucking late now.

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     Baroness Love @ Light ☦ (baronessloveandlight@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Thursday, 21-Dec-2023 15:08:43 JST Baroness Love @ Light ☦

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     @sj_zero @Sabex https://fountain.fm/episode/9RXXW3Hznu5siffY5hYg
     This is a great podcast on healing from trauma. He suggests that forgiveness heals us, the forgiver