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   Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 07:20:46 JST Tim Chambers

   #isolategab - for those choosing “what is gab?” Here is your answer and a good summary of how things started: https://www.vice.com/en/article/mb8y3x/the-nazi-free-alternative-to-twitter-is-now-home-to-the-biggest-far-right-social-network

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     Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 09:47:51 JST Tim Chambers

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     • Lats (314 ppm)

     @Lats Yeah it was a fork of Mastodon, and then later a fork that defederated. So pretty much after the first major tweaks to the source code it ceased to be "mastodon."

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     Lats (314 ppm) (lats@aus.social)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 09:47:52 JST Lats (314 ppm)

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     @tchambers it uses mastodon software so it is said to be mastodon. As mastodon instances block it, does it remain “a mastodon instance“? I would say that mastodon is working as designed in that undesirables can be blocked. If the Gab or any other group sets up using whatever technology, they can exist in their own bubble.

     The emphasis should be that the Gab is not mastodon, it uses publicly available software and is its own network.

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     Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 10:32:58 JST Tim Chambers

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     • Kiloku

     @Kiloku In the article, I'll work on why I helped lead the effort to block Gab then and why I am advocating not preemptively blocking threads now. But more later.

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     Kiloku (kiloku@burnthis.town)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 10:32:59 JST Kiloku

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     @tchambers the difference between gab and threads is that in threads the fascists are only allowed to stay as long as they only use dogwhistles.

     Of course, we should still block any haven for fascists, whether it's a discreet one or not.

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     Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 10:35:46 JST Tim Chambers

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     • Tim Bray

     @timbray Which item is misleading? the Vice article?

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     Tim Bray (timbray@cosocial.ca)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 10:35:47 JST Tim Bray

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     @tchambers It's a little misleading in that basically *every* non-Nazi instance defederates Gab.

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     Tim Chambers (tchambers@indieweb.social)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 11:10:23 JST Tim Chambers

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     • Tim Bray

     @timbray Yes and that was an old article, I think written before Gab fully dropped ActivtyPub.

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     Tim Bray (timbray@cosocial.ca)'s status on Monday, 18-Dec-2023 11:10:24 JST Tim Bray

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     @tchambers Yeah, it left the impression that Gab was still sorta kinda part of the Fediverse screen. Sure, the Masto folk said drop dead, but I think it's more important to note that there are basically zero Fedi instances that federate with Gab