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   Shantini (shantini@techhub.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 17:32:04 JST Shantini

   Mastodon users: everything should be federated!

   Also Mastodon users: no not you

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     Max Leibman (maxleibman@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 17:35:44 JST Max Leibman

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     • M.S. Bellows, Jr.

     @msbellows I don't know the OP's intent, but I hear it not just in the context of blocking Threads (fine, whatever, do or don’t; I don't like Meta, either). Rather, what I see reflected there is the complete asshattery of people who've said, “We need to block any instance that doesn't block Threads!” (or even further). Which is a burn-the-village-to-save-the-village sentiment if I've ever seen one.

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     Max Leibman (maxleibman@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 17:35:45 JST Max Leibman

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     • M.S. Bellows, Jr.

     @msbellows Neither I nor the OP said anything about tolerating bad actors or bad behavior. I like what she said because it calls attention to Fediverse partisans’ obliviousness to the tradeoffs in the designs of this place—like how people talk about defederation like it's a clean, simple, pure solution, as though it has no negative consequences.

     (EDIT: The first version of this reply started out unnecessarily aggressive, so I took it out, and I apologize. The rest I stand by.)

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     Max Leibman (maxleibman@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 17:35:46 JST Max Leibman

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     @shantini I’m gonna need a bigger boost button for this one…

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     M.S. Bellows, Jr. (msbellows@c.im)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 17:35:46 JST M.S. Bellows, Jr.

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     • Max Leibman

     @maxleibman @shantini I respectfully disagree. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

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     Raccoon at TechHub :mastodon: (raccoon@techhub.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 17:38:37 JST Raccoon at TechHub :mastodon:

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     @shantini
     So, speaking as a moderator of your instance, you are on the right instance: we aren't blocking Threads unless they do something that actually causes problems, like if they don't fix their damn implementation by the time they try to query posts from us, or if they don't fix their moderation problems that are making people not want to be on their platform and it becomes our issue.

     That said, I think it's not only entirely acceptable that other instances are blocking, especially these small, safety oriented instances, but it's actually how things were intended to be run from the design point. If they don't want to have to deal with the potential bullshit coming out of Threads, they shouldn't have to, and they have the right to decide that because it's their servers. That's the beauty of decentralized networks.

     Threads doesn't have much to offer to the average user anyway, mostly ads and influencers: most of the interesting stuff is on Fedi.

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     Shantini (shantini@techhub.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 17:38:38 JST Shantini

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     Mastodon users: everyone is welcome here!

     Also Mastodon users: no not you

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