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Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 04:58:58 JST Mike Masnick ✅

As I understand it, Meta has a phased rollout plan regarding ActivityPub. Its efforts today are little more than effectively reposting a few Threads accounts to ActivityPub, but it will start adding features for tighter integration throughout the course of next year. https://www.threads.net/@zuck/post/C0zXcQmxO77/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ%3D%3D
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  Mark Zuckerberg (@zuck) on Threads
  
  Starting a test where posts from Threads accounts will be available on Mastodon and other services that use the ActivityPub protocol. Making Threads interoperable will give people more choice over how they interact and it will help content reach more people. I'm pretty optimistic about this.
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  Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 05:06:53 JST Mike Masnick ✅
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  @fisherstudio the initial test (starting today) will be that some threads content will be available on ActivityPub (just to follow). So it's basically just account replication for now. Other features will roll out next year.
  
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  Fisher (fisherstudio@infosec.exchange)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 05:06:54 JST Fisher
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  @mmasnick I’m so entrenched in Camp 1 (wants nothing to do with Meta) I can’t even bear to click that. What did he say? Nah, I’ll see it eventually, no big deal. ❤️ appreciate you and your podcast theme song a lot, Mr. M. Thank you
  
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  SerTapTap (She/Her)🎮🏳️‍⚧️ (sirtaptap@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 05:13:20 JST SerTapTap (She/Her)🎮🏳️‍⚧️
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  @mmasnick TBH, that's how I'd test it. Cautiously optimistic. If Activitypub becomes Just How Shit Gets Made like SMTP and RSS, that's a win even if most people stay on Threads/big social crap
  And if they can follow me here without me having to touch threads, hey, that's nice. That's what I like about Misskey. Should be the standard.
  Now Tumblr get your shit together.
  
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  Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 05:18:40 JST Mike Masnick ✅
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  @monorailtimes my understanding is that it's just going to start with a few Meta employees. I'd guess Adam Mosseri would be the first, but I don't know for sure.
  
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  monorail times (monorailtimes@worldkey.io)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 05:18:41 JST monorail times
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  @mmasnick any idea which accounts work at the moment?
  
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  Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 07:13:07 JST Mike Masnick ✅
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  @janxdevil they have been vocal that they absolutely plan to support that. Indeed, it seems central to some of what they've talked about.
  
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  The Janx Devil (janxdevil@sfba.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 07:13:08 JST The Janx Devil
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  @mmasnick When do they plan to support automatic account migration from Threads to other ActivityPub instances. Is that on their roadmap. Does anyone care?
  
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  Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 07:14:04 JST Mike Masnick ✅
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  @LiveOutLoud it's the usual "Embrace/Extend/Extinguish" concept, that once Meta is the whale in the pond, it'll end up eating all the fish...
  
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  LOLoud (liveoutloud@mastodon.online)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 07:14:06 JST LOLoud
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  @mmasnick i am pretty new to fediverse so maybe this has been hashed out in way too much detail at an earlier time, but can anyone summarize what are the main concerns of the fediverse folks who are clearly not looking forward to threads/Big-Zuck integrating with ActivityPub?
  
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  Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 07:27:28 JST Mike Masnick ✅
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  @Kay initially yes, but early next year they say they plan to start integration actual interactions between threads and the fediverse, starting with passing back info on likes / boosts and eventually to full on replies etc.
  
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  Kay :heart_bi: :tinoflag: (kay@mastodon.nz)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 07:27:29 JST Kay :heart_bi: :tinoflag:
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  @mmasnick Thanks. I don't use Instagram so while I may want to favourite posts by people I would follow in the Fediverse, I won't leave Mastodon to do so.
  Account replication sounds like a bot reposting content without any interaction options. Is that right?
  
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  Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 09:28:21 JST Mike Masnick ✅
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  @kommaKucken @janxdevil yeah. i attended that dialogue that person wrote about, though their framing of it... is horribly confused and misleading.
  
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  hömma (kommakucken@ruhr.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 09:28:23 JST hömma
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  it really seems so:
  https://kolektiva.social/@ophiocephalic/111574015616239424
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    Attached: 1 image Interesting new details have emerged concerning planned machinations for Meta's takeover of the fediverse. The information was revealed at a "data dialogue" in San Francisco on the subject of "Meta’s Threads Interoperating in the Fediverse". An account at this blog post: https://reb00ted.org/tech/20231208-meta-threads-data-dialogue/ And more info in this Masto thread: https://mastodon.cloud/@joemcl/111566221062518491 It seems that the plan is to gradually roll federation out in stages over the next year. The most telling reveal is in the screenshotted toot by Meta advocate Evan: "Also, as far as I could tell, the most important use case for them is that a creator could move from Threads to their own server, even if they get de-platformed. I think the major motivator here is Mark Zuckerberg having to go testify in front of Congress twice a year or whatever, and getting grilled by conservative Congresspeople about de-platforming. Being able to say, you can get kicked off Threads but keep your followers, is a big win in this situation." If correct, the impression here is that Meta is interested in ActivityPub's account portability, so they can offload problematic fascists to the fediverse without too much disgruntlement. They see the fedi as a dumping ground into which they can externalize toxic users without having to either moderate them on their own server, or provoke them by wiping out their social graph. In Zuckerberg's scheme, our community is to become a landfill for fascism. #DefederateMeta #FediPact #Meta #Facebook #Threads #Instagram .
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  Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 09:29:11 JST Mike Masnick ✅
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  @janxdevil they have a road map over the next year or so.
  
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  The Janx Devil (janxdevil@sfba.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 09:29:12 JST The Janx Devil
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  @mmasnick When do they plan to support it? What have they prioritized below it?
  
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  Mike Masnick ✅ (mmasnick@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 15:32:23 JST Mike Masnick ✅
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  @pollak mstdn.social but not mastodon.social.
  
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  Micah Pollak (pollak@mstdn.social)'s status on Thursday, 14-Dec-2023 15:32:24 JST Micah Pollak
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  @mmasnick Unfortunately, it looks like mastodon(.)social and associated instances have defederated Threads already, so we're unlikely to experience Threads through ActivityPub. I wonder if we'll see people migrating toward instances that have not defederated so they can follow folks on Threads.
  List of instances that have defederated Threads here: https://fedipact.veganism.social/
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