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   Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 02:54:00 JST Evan Prodromou

   I found the discussion of the UN Security Council on Gaza very interesting.

   https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/12/1144562

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     Hippy Steve (exador23@m.ai6yr.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 03:34:36 JST Hippy Steve

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     @evan I found the US ambassador's statement infuriating: "we do not support calls for an immediate ceasefire. This would only plant the seeds for the next war, because Hamas has no desire to see a durable peace, to see a two-State solution."

     Every family that is bombed is creating more extremists eager to join Hamas or an even more violent future group. Those are the "seeds for the next war." Hopeless individuals who watched their innocent loved ones die horribly are ripe to become suicide bombers.

     Likud is the greatest barrier to a two-state solution imo.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 03:34:36 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Hippy Steve

     @exador23 I liked Guterres's statement: "The brutality perpetrated by Hamas can never justify the collective punishment of the Palestinian people."

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     Hippy Steve (exador23@m.ai6yr.org)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 03:59:01 JST Hippy Steve

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     @evan Did you see the Foreign Affairs article the other day? It clearly laid out the case that the war so far is indeed collective punishment, and rather than eliminating Hamas it is strengthening them. And the Council on Foreign Relations that has published that magazine for nearly 100 years is NOT some touchy-feely progressive group. In almost any administration, about 40% are CFR members.

     https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/israels-failed-bombing-campaign-gaza

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Saturday, 09-Dec-2023 03:59:01 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Hippy Steve

     @exador23 This part is particularly damning: "Israel has rescued only one of the 240 or so hostages taken in the October 7 attack. The only other hostages freed have been released by Hamas, showing that the group remains in control of its fighters."