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   Cory Doctorow (pluralistic@mamot.fr)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:20:41 JST Cory Doctorow

   #AdversarialInteroperability is one of the most reliable ways to protect users from predatory corporations: it's when someone reverse-engineers a product to reconfigure or mod it (interoperability) in ways its users like, but which its manufacturer objects to (adversarial):

   https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/10/adversarial-interoperability

   If you'd like an essay-formatted version of this thread to read or share, here's a link to it on pluralistic.net, my surveillance-free, ad-free, tracker-free blog:

   https://pluralistic.net/2023/12/07/blue-bubbles-for-all/#never-underestimate-the-determination-of-a-kid-who-is-time-rich-and-cash-poor

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     Jordan Biserkov (jbiserkov@mas.to)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:20:33 JST Jordan Biserkov

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     @brandon @HodgesC @jiub @pluralistic

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     brandon (brandon@the-gathering.space)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:20:34 JST brandon

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     @HodgesC @jiub @pluralistic I remember hating the switch to hangouts. I think it just seemed slower/laggier, but I don’t remember all of the reasons I hated it. All of these new website “upgrades” where they look more fancy, but are slower, reduce the amount of info visible at once, and take more time to load remind me of the move. I guess it’s enshittification all the way down (up?).

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     Chris Hodges (hodgesc@mas.to)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:20:37 JST Chris Hodges

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     @jiub @pluralistic The switch from Gchat to Hangouts was a landmark moment in Googles enshittifcation - in hindsight. We ran the lab over Gchat (now we have to use Teams, in an indication of how bad things have got)

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     Jiub (jiub@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Dec-2023 11:20:38 JST Jiub

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     @pluralistic In retrospect, it was a glorious period of time when essentially all chat protocols were reversed engineered and usable in third party clients. From roughly 2003-2013 I was able to contact basically everyone I knew with a single program (Trillian, then GAIM/Pidgin) no matter if they used AIM, MSN, or Google Chat.

     Now I have a half dozen messenger apps on my phone, and that's not even all of them. I hope reverse engineering and EU interop brings back the glory days of Pidgin.