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   ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 21:10:05 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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   Most doctors are fucking dumb. Most don't even practice medice by exercising discretion. Most doctors follow best practices guides issued by the medical groups to which they belong in order to avoid malpractice, maintain insurance coverage, and get paid maximum $$$ by Medicare and the patients insurer.
   
   So they literally practice check the box, incremental medicine, and they won't go out of order, meaning that most people are not properly diagnosed until a disease has significantly progressed, and only if they don't die first.
   
   Many end up in the emergency room prior to diagnosis because their primary ignored their complaints, made them trasverse the best practices guide, and at significant cost, and during that time continually scheduled appointments weeks, if not months apart, thereby delaying actually effective care.
   
   Modern medicine is a fucking joke and any doctor who supports that system is ipso facto guilty of malpractice.
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     NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 21:39:28 JST NEETzsche

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     Part of it is certainly due to bullshit like affirmative action, but I think our circles often underestimate the seriousness of the general civilizational decay we’re rapidly going through. We’re going through opposite of a Renaissance. Part of it is by design for sure, but some of it also seems natural. People have nothing to believe in anymore because everything on Earth has been undermined and trashed and so they believe in nothing. They think their choices don’t matter, so they don’t try. And when enough people are mired in this it crushes optimists into being just another drudge.

     I know that Cyberpunk 2077 has rendered the cyberpunk genre kind of “cringe” lately, but unless the overall trend since WW2 reverses, cyberpunk dystopia is legitimately where we’re headed. Kids born in the next ten years are going to come of age when they need to be willing to get a brain chip and pull the fucking trigger in the same night if they want 2,000 calories.

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     Quentel (quentel@nightshift.social)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 21:39:29 JST Quentel

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     > Modern medicine is a fucking joke and any doctor who supports that system is ipso facto guilty of malpractice.
     
     Many of them are completely incapable of making a rational diagnosis without being aided by check-boxes. Several people know this to be true, but they believe they're protecting themselves by protecting 'professional' peers.
     
     Some of them are as dumb as a box of rocks. They generaly have lots of practice speaking to people daily, so it's not always easy to spot the really stupid ones.
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     dictatordave (dictatordave@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 21:45:08 JST dictatordave

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     @Quentel @Humpleupagus @condret @newt maybe its by design that the profession is being undermined, creates a reason to totally 'need' "AI" (death panels), to further reduce the numbers in the population and experiment on the idiots as well
     
     and they'll obey, especially because the computer says so
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     My personal opinion is that given the fact most people can't even see a doctor without scheduling appointments weeks / months out, that the medical licensing system and prescription drug regulatory scheme may at some point violate due process or the right to life. Kinda like how scotus found that the education system violated equal protection in brown. (I note that there is a case out of Texas where the court found doctors to be government actors given certain laws regulating their practice. I actually think they exercise an illegally delegated judicial function by being able to decide who is exempt from drug laws via prescription).
     
     Basically, at some point, people have to be allowed to access medicine, and/or care for, themselves if the system created by the regulatory scheme is causing significant delay in care.
     
     But to your point, the system they want is the system currently used by Kaiser, which is actually three entities... (1) Kaiser hospital, (2) Kaiser medical group, and (3) Kaiser insurance, except they want the government to own (1) and provide (3), and the unions to control (2).
     
     California is proof of this goal. Not only is Kaiser the states preferred insurer, but the seiu controls the labor, and the legislature has passed laws that effectively gives Kaiser an advantage over small hospitals, often putting them out of business — for example, they can put undesirable, non-paying patients in ambulances and dump them at the emergency rooms of small hospitals and then unilaterally determine the rate at which they reimburse those smaller hospitals without any negotiation.
     
     At the point that the state comes to control medicine, they will also control what diseases are real and who lives and who dies.
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 22:07:52 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Part of the problem is the blood supply. The FDA limitations on donations are a bit excessive. They could expand the heart rate, blood pressure, and hemoglobin limits a bit and let people who have healthy blood, but are donating for a medical purpose (i.e. people with hemochromatosis or polycythemia vera) donate and/or without a prescription and more often than a normal person given the high rbc.
     
     But they rather let people die, because muh fda said so. 🤷♂️
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     MasterSimper (mastersimper@troll.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 22:07:53 JST MasterSimper

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     @Humpleupagus @dictatordave @Quentel @condret @newt I like medical history, 1900s surgeons wrote papers blood products were best to give people bleeding out since it had all the compents needed to support tissue and clotting. Fast forward 100 years after cyrstalloids have killed thousands of people due to no one reading studies correctly and it being cheap and replacing it for blood, lets switch back to blood because its magically saving lives. I imagine some study will repeat the information and it will go back to some volume emhancer because its the newest best thing for several years.
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     This calls for a constitutional amendment.
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     MasterSimper (mastersimper@troll.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 22:15:36 JST MasterSimper

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     @Humpleupagus @Quentel @dictatordave @condret @newt look I see nothing wrong with leeching people with high bp. Just like I think cops should use weighted net guns to capture criminals.