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revolutionary girl erin (kvuzet@gender.systems)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 08:05:14 JST revolutionary girl erin

If you're a Google Chrome user, I'm urging you to read through this comic and ask yourself if you'd still like to be a chrome user:
https://contrachrome.com/

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  Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 08:05:11 JST Dushman
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  It pains me to say this but modern Firefox just sucks. I've been using it for an extremely long time and I see the decline.
  
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  Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 08:05:12 JST Dushman
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  Just install ungoogled chromium. Same experience without the spyware.
  
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  Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 16:48:00 JST Lina Inver?e
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  @dushman @kvuzet @UkeBLCatboy @Arcaik >31
  >catboy
  Christ that paints a very scary image in my head
  
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  Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 16:48:01 JST Dushman
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  Opera GX is gamer bait. It's literally chromium with a different skin and spyware.
  
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  UkeBLCatboy (ukeblcatboy@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 16:48:02 JST UkeBLCatboy
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  @Arcaik @dushman @kvuzet as I said above, make Firefox less slow and ugly and I'll use it 😂 untill then I'll stick to opera GX xD
  (Virtually) no one is going to use a slower annoying and uglier browser out of principle.
  
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  Arcaik (arcaik@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 16:48:09 JST Arcaik
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  @dushman @kvuzet Tor developers fully disagree with you. Ask them and they'll tell you, it's harder to “degooglize” Chromium than it is to simply secure Firefox.
  Plus this is just one of the issue. Another big one is Google having a monopoly on browser means *they* get to decide what makes the web and this is a huge issue.
  
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  Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 21:11:33 JST Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc)
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  @dushman @Arcaik @UkeBLCatboy @kvuzet the cpu limit as i understand though is just the system limits
  
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  Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 21:11:33 JST Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc)
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  @Arcaik @UkeBLCatboy @dushman @kvuzet also this is a valid use i think, my brother doesn't want to pay for a vpn, and apparently the opera gx vpn is like actually a good vpn they just limit the free version to in browser only to get users, so anyways he uses a browser extension torrent client and basically just uses it for that, which is pretty based tbh
  
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  Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 21:11:34 JST Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc)
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  @dushman @kvuzet @UkeBLCatboy @Arcaik > You can make it dump anything over the limit to swap instead of killing anything.
  thats not any better. the point still stands its a "hard limit" in that the system can only do so much, as opposed to the software itself
  
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  Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 21:11:36 JST Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc)
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  @dushman @kvuzet @UkeBLCatboy @Arcaik not everyone is on linux, thats not user friendly, also cgroup is not as good, it's a hard maximum. like oom, it's better to have software itself do these limits and have a soft safe handling than the kernel doing it blind to the effects on software. if you get to high with something like cgroups it can introduce issues, the browser doing it itself though would be smart about it, unloading tabs or however it manages to do these limits. it's absolutely not a replacement though it is better than nothing
  
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  Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 21:11:36 JST Dushman
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  @mja@comp.lain.la @kvuzet@gender.systems @UkeBLCatboy@mastodon.social @Arcaik@hachyderm.io
  No it doesn't have to be a hard limit. You can make it dump anything over the limit to swap instead of killing anything.
  
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  Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 21:11:37 JST Dushman
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  @mja@comp.lain.la @kvuzet@gender.systems @UkeBLCatboy@mastodon.social @Arcaik@hachyderm.io
  You can limit the memory usage of any process with a cgroup
  
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  Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 21:11:38 JST Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc)
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  @dushman @kvuzet @UkeBLCatboy @Arcaik opera gx does have the ram limiting thing though, i bet that's pretty useful
  
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  Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 21:11:40 JST Dushman
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  @UkeBLCatboy@mastodon.social @mja@comp.lain.la @kvuzet@gender.systems @Arcaik@hachyderm.io
  You can make any chromium browser look exactly like it.
  
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  Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 21:11:41 JST Dushman
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  @UkeBLCatboy@mastodon.social @mja@comp.lain.la @kvuzet@gender.systems @Arcaik@hachyderm.io rgbLol it's a browser. Almost every browser has custom themes.
  
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  UkeBLCatboy (ukeblcatboy@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 21:11:42 JST UkeBLCatboy
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  @mja @dushman @kvuzet @Arcaik yes but again, the free games, rgb etc are fun xD
  And much of it including the free games is pretty unique though :3
  Plus aura, aura is awesome 😎 but of course I could watch her streams in Firefox too if I wanted 😂
  
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  Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 21:11:43 JST Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc)
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  @dushman @kvuzet @UkeBLCatboy @Arcaik > It's literally chromium with a different skin and spyware.
  as original as any other browser
  
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  @dushman @kvuzet @UkeBLCatboy @Arcaik @mja How does it work for you? I'm looking into the wlroots ecosystem now since I'm hitting the pain points of Plasma Wayland and I absolutely refuse to go back to GNOME under any circumstances.
  
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  UkeBLCatboy (ukeblcatboy@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 21:30:01 JST UkeBLCatboy
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  @dushman @kvuzet @Arcaik @mja I found out later, but thanks for the tip! However, it still messed up with the monitor 😂
  I prefer when things just work out of the box, like kde neon and kubuntu. If I had one monitor, deepin would be the same, but it just barely fell short with that second screen. (And the not having a pastel pink theme, guy or not, I love pink 🩷)
  
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  Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 21:30:01 JST Dushman
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  @UkeBLCatboy@mastodon.social @kvuzet@gender.systems @Arcaik@hachyderm.io @mja@comp.lain.la
  I use labwc on my main machine. (openbox clone for wayland)
  
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  Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 21:30:03 JST Dushman
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  @UkeBLCatboy@mastodon.social @mja@comp.lain.la @kvuzet@gender.systems @Arcaik@hachyderm.io
  You don't have to use Deepin to use their desktop environment. You can install it on like any big distro as a regular package.
  
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  Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 21:30:04 JST Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc)
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  @UkeBLCatboy @dushman @kvuzet @Arcaik xiaomi and huawei are based they don't glow any harder than western phone companies its just china instead of amerikkka and in return they're way more affordable for what you get. i completely endorse that shit, i only use a pixel because graphene os, i ran mostly xiaomi before
  
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  UkeBLCatboy (ukeblcatboy@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 21:30:04 JST UkeBLCatboy
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  @mja @dushman @kvuzet @Arcaik yeah xiami is awesome and indeed cheap 😎
  But Huawei has deepin, which has an eula literally stating your data can be send to mainland china, and it wass still worth it for that pretty taskbar 😂
  However, after a month I went back to kde neon (dual boot with winoldows, mostly for Genshin without weird workarounds), because deepin while great in most ways didn't like my weird dual monitor setup
  
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  UkeBLCatboy (ukeblcatboy@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 21:30:05 JST UkeBLCatboy
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  @dushman @kvuzet @Arcaik @mja I mean I loooooveeeeeee Genshin and the fandom, the ships, art, cosplayers, fanfics, etc, wanna cosplay it too, and play almost everyday so 😂
  Genshin is life, Genshin is fun 😊 cute comfy characters, love it, comfy XD
  Also I used deepin, the Huawei distro with the eula, once for a month on my pc because it has a pretty transparant taskbar 😂
  Oh and my phone is a Xiaomi 😂
  And I'm a huge BL/danmei fan, so bilibili comics for TGCF too 😂
  Opera GX is fun. Me like. XD
  
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  Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 21:30:06 JST Dushman
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  Gotta love getting datamined by Chinese companies for your favorite streamer
  
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  Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 22:02:28 JST Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc)
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  @mischievoustomato @dushman @kvuzet @UkeBLCatboy i think so too, but the issue is it uses so much memory and i think it tries to give itself a higher priority? i forget? and one thing linux absolutely sucks at is memory management tbh, if it gets too high pressure, which it often does to itself with caches, a lot of other starts freezing up or having issues or running slowly or gets oom killed when it really doesn't need to be. i mean i find myself having to use /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches on a fairly regularly basis to get back performance on my main machine, and this was far more excasterbated an issue when i ran a chromium browser (both ungoogled and qutebrowser) because it just put on so much pressure
  palemoon especially how i have it configured uses relatively little memory so its cozy
  about:performance says it uses 1,9gigs rn, 42 tabs, including a heavy webapp and two long loaded videos on invidious, 14 addons
  if i run with few performance addons, good memory tweaks, and dont have any media/js heavy sites in use i've been able to browse with it usings as little as 170megs at one point for a few tabs ( i found one screenshot with 167 megs on palemoon but it would dox me lol)
  
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  Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@5dollah.click)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 22:02:29 JST Johnny Peligro
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  @mja @dushman @kvuzet @UkeBLCatboy i think chrome suspends tabs when memory pressure is high on lunix
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 22:22:37 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  Just edit /sys/memmap/memory.conf and add the line Memory=^0$; That make it unlimited. 🙄
  
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  Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@5dollah.click)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 22:22:38 JST Johnny Peligro
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  oh
  i thought you had memory tweaks for like, linux itself
  ever since i discoevered the knobs and experimented with them, plus enabled zram, i dont really care much about memory usage until im at 100% memory and like 10+GB of swap (zram, actually about 3GB in memory)
  
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  Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc) (mja@comp.lain.la)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 22:22:39 JST Maijčika 🌲 (Public Arc)
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  @mischievoustomato @dushman @kvuzet @UkeBLCatboy i dont remember i've been using this profile fucking forever lmao
  i use suspendor addon, some tweaks with palemoon commander, some with about:config
  beyond that idk lol
  if your using chromium based browser, idk how to do in main chrome, but theres a low end device mode that helps a lot, i had it set to always on qutebrowser. also if your browser lets you tweak it, single process is great (although i would say its riskier under chromium where it's not designed to handle tabs issues without crashing them, like you wont get a "stop this script" popup or anything), lower cache max and size might help or might detriment further, some other things, really its just trial and error
  i think something with the garbage collector or session and disk cache on palemoon was the main thing but again idr
  
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  Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@5dollah.click)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 22:22:40 JST Johnny Peligro
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  @mja @dushman @kvuzet @UkeBLCatboy what mem tweaks do you have?
  also i find chromium to use less memory on average compared to firefox and to also behave much better than Firefox under memory pressure.
  i have my own memory tweaks (sysctl + zram) so i wanna know
  
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  Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 22:28:31 JST Dushman
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  @mja@comp.lain.la @kvuzet@gender.systems @UkeBLCatboy@mastodon.social @Arcaik@hachyderm.io
  Though I've used cgroups like that and didn't have issues. Not with a browser though.
  
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