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@sim @Moon
> when it turns to disrespect or being inconsiderate to you.
If we're talking about conversations on here, this doesn't bother me as much. Like, is the conversation going anywhere, is there a point? Or is it at least entertaining?
People are always arriving on fedi from somewhere and the worst tendency that comes over is the person that is talking to you but is just broadcasting, and you're there just so they have someone to address, like they're talking to some audience and you're there, but they don't care what you have to say and they aren't listening. You may as well be a wall, they just need some member of $outgroup standing there when they deliver the invective. So they've got some sort of goal for the conversation and it's not got much to do with you, they wanna push a point or something. That gets under my skin, it's like a salesman: you think you're conversing, but they are just using the conversation as a means to an end.
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@p @sim @Moon Like an infomercial.
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@MisterRogersSnapped @Moon @sim Infomercials, salesmen, aggressive panhandlers, religious evangelism, political evangelism, etc.
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@p @sim @Moon
In my view, this is the nature of online communication to a degree.
People want to talk about topics to a group. This is not a chat form factor; it is a forum, essentially, and like USENET, those are always about the group.
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@amerika @Moon @sim Well, there's not an agenda nor a topic; people seem to form their own groups.
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@p @MisterRogersSnapped @Moon @sim
In democracy, everyone is a propagandist.
Feature not bug.
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@amerika @MisterRogersSnapped @Moon @sim I'm not sure that you can blame the Great Satan for this; I think you're slightly older than me so you ought to remember that things weren't quite like this pre-9/11.
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@p @sim @Moon
The question really is, "is this relevant to the people reading?"
In my experience, hundreds and thousands read for each person posting.
This is the idea of CMC as communications not socializing or entertainment.
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@amerika @Moon @sim I don't know, like it might be the case, but it's the same as the "God of the gaps" problem: you can't take into account something that you cannot observe.
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@p @Moon @sim
Sure, or the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
However, there's another layer: for those who biologically _can_ have the ability to observe, learning experiences are necessary.
This is why any forum needs _some_ churn on FAQ issues. Otherwise, people forget the _why_ behind the how.
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@p @MisterRogersSnapped @Moon @sim
I believe the obvious explanation is the best one here, but it is true: before 1998 or so, America was a more open place.
However, I experienced hyper-PC during my time in California, and new it was coming by the end of the first year of you-know-who's presidency.
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@amerika @MisterRogersSnapped @Moon @sim
> the first year of you-know-who's presidency.
In this case, I don't; I was pleasantly surprised by exactly one president who managed to be somewhat less egregiously terrible than the other ones, but I don't think I have lived through a "good" president.
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@p @Moon @sim
Definitely, but that changes nothing.
The group here is defined by who on the #fediverse has not blocked FSE.
Within that, ad hoc groups form, and there are some groups who are sort of perpetually linked by a hellthread umbilical.
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