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   Bridgelurker Kip (jedkron1248@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Dec-2023 02:09:26 JST Bridgelurker Kip

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   • BowserNoodle ☦️
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   @scalar @Tadano @BowsacNoodle @vic Not to disagree (because I don't), but for the person dipping their toes into the alt-health space because some veil has been lifted, DYOR seems like you just told them to wake up and climb Mount Everest. There is so much misinfo out there (likely encouraged by antagonists) that it almost induces a minor paranoia/purity spiral of "how do I know this is 'good' info?"

   The average person is a sheep and just wants to be told quick and easy fixes, and even more intelligent or people capable of understanding can fall into the quick dopamine trap of just wanting the answer. Research is a lost art, and few are capable of it.

   I understand the need to dance around definitives and play the ignoramus on more dicey topics. But from my seat over here in the section I'm describing, I have no idea where to even start looking on topics like this - and still "trust" the findings, if that makes sense. Sure I can pick a favorite search engine, but how deep into the results do you have to go before you filter out the "approved opinions"?

   I type all this trying to assuage my conscience telling me that I should be capable of such things, I'm just a bum wanting handouts lol.

   Anyhow, love your work, keep it up; I hope you get those boomer dollars. I'd much rather have you as a mysterious and benevolent technocrat than ol' Billyboy.

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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Dec-2023 02:09:25 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @JedKron1248 @scalar @Tadano @vic Didn't see your post but I have kind of the same feeling myself. Maybe would be fun/useful to start working on some one-page short science conceptual explanations that build to teach systematic concepts at a general level. Nobody can spoon feed what to do for legal reasons or otherwise, but knowing how certain things work and having the ability to lookup other things without spending 45 minutes lost in simple research land would be helpful to prevent bamboozling.
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     vic (vic@seal.cafe)'s status on Friday, 01-Dec-2023 02:25:36 JST vic

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     @JedKron1248 @Tadano @scalar @BowsacNoodle The “who do I believe” crisis sucks, and there are more people who are paid to lie to you than people who are paid to learn and tell the truth. To make matters worse, we don’t know how far back and to what extent the lying has occurred, namely: can I trust a medical study from the 1990s? 1950s? 1800s? Quacks have always existed, but they have historically been more interested in making a quick buck than wanting people to die, as today’s crop of top-level quacks seem to be.

     Fortunately, they overplay their hand frequently, and they panic the moment someone starts to stumble on the right answer. The fact that ivermectin was shut down so hard, and yet never disproven (nor even attempted to be) by the establishment, is an indicator that “this is worth investigating”–not necessarily that it is good, but simply a good lead.

     You also need to keep in mind that the fewer followers someone has, the less likely they know what they are talking about, whereas the more followers someone has, the more likely they are compromised. There are outliers, of course, but for me it’s a general rule. Also remember that the landscape is constantly shifting; someone you trusted could be bought out, a newcomer worth listening to could arrive on the scene, said newcomer could be a shill or a truly good person (until being bought out/silenced later), etc.

     A lot of it comes from spiritual (or, for the humanists, “system 1”) discernment–that gut feeling you get when you know something isn’t quite right, even though on the surface it all seems fine.

     Some of it comes from experience and learning from being lied to in the past. We’ve all been hoodwinked at one time or another.

     The biggest thing, in my opinion, is to pray to God for wisdom and guidance on the right path. No one can escape the Father of Lies alone.

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     Bridgelurker Kip (jedkron1248@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Dec-2023 02:32:23 JST Bridgelurker Kip

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     • BowserNoodle ☦️
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     @BowsacNoodle @scalar @Tadano @vic I'm sure such things exist somewhere out there, but the issue is that even if it does, a person looking into the yawning maw has no idea what to even begin with. The bright folks with the knowledge of deeper things take their understanding of the foundational matters for granted, while the initiate bounces off trying to understand something that the wise would call "simple" because they lack the foundation. (A general statement, no specific target intended)

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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 01-Dec-2023 02:38:28 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @vic @Tadano @scalar @JedKron1248 >we don’t know how far back and to what extent the lying has occurred, namely: can I trust a medical study from the 1990s? 1950s? 1800s?
     
     Regular scientific studies from the pre atomic age are good. As least for foundational knowledge, it's an excellent place to start. Things like chemistry don't stop applying when you're in a human body, but you have to learn stuff like normal ranges, compartmentalizing and cascading reactions to really get practical application of stuff. It does function like a system and there's a lot of specialist components that often have multiple uses.