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on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 04:25:59 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
@lebronjames75 @marine @Moon @why we should have the length of the track, so it might make sense to not display it after that time.

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  NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 04:27:49 JST NEETzsche
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  @lain the length is optional and, in the case of lastfm, not included. So we'd have to make a guess, like maybe 5min in those cases.
  
  Me personally, I don't mind looking at someone's scrobble from forever ago as long as it's the most recent
  
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  on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 04:30:22 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
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  @Kirino @marine @Moon @lebronjames75 @why I mean, these are just sensible guesses, it’s not critical to get “now playing “ info right.
  
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  Kirino Kousaka (kirino@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 04:30:23 JST Kirino Kousaka
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  That only works if they don’t pause the song though
  
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  NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 04:35:25 JST NEETzsche
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  @lain I mean my fork of Soapbox hazards a guess on if it should show a playing emoji or a pause emoji depending on if the time elapsed exceeded the length of the track since scrobbling, but it doesn’t stop displaying it even if the most recent one is from last year.
  This is because, it’s a personal preference, I didn’t want them to just disappear just because they weren’t very recent. But I’m seeing that other people have an inverse preference. It’s not about how recent it is, it’s about if it’s current, if the user is playing the song right now or at least very recently.
  Maybe we can find some reconciliation between these perspectives. For example, maybe the text can be very prominent, big, with colors that pop out at you when they’re currently listening to it, and then it becomes small, muted, when they aren’t. Think 16pt bold while playing, 8pt barely different from the background color when it was from last week.
  This is of course just brainstorming
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  on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 04:38:15 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
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  @NEETzsche @marine @Kirino @Moon @lebronjames75 @why I think an issue is that PleromaFE can already be pretty busy and this is not making it any simpler. I don’t have any preferences either way.
  
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  NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 04:38:26 JST NEETzsche
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  @Kirino Not even, the paused icon just means the addition is old lol
  
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  Kirino Kousaka (kirino@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 04:38:27 JST Kirino Kousaka
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  So you’ll see someone paused it a long time after the fact? Also seems unreliable.
  
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  NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 04:43:25 JST NEETzsche
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  @lain my fork of Pleroma has an optional URL field that just got merged into the PleromaBE. It lets you submit some kind of URL for the source of the song. It could be a YouTube video, SoundCloud, name it. It gets the domain name's favicon and puts it next to the song. If you click it, it takes you to the source URL.
  
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  on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 04:45:55 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
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  @NEETzsche @marine @Kirino @Moon @lebronjames75 @why nice but we’ll need to fix the padding / sizes, this UI is all over the place
  
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  NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 04:48:41 JST NEETzsche
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  @lain I did fix the padding but the sizes are the same. Also @hj said he's testy about including foreign favicons in general, which I'm sensitive to, so I might just let this Peter out as being for my instances only. We'll see
  
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  Kirino Kousaka (kirino@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 04:53:04 JST Kirino Kousaka
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  Why can the info just not be displayed on the user’s profile instead of on every message is my biggest question right now.
  
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  NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 04:53:04 JST NEETzsche
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  @Kirino rich presence generally displays it under the username as a side effect of displaying the user name at all. I got it from that. You could move to the profile if you wanted, I'm just not going to write the code to do so because I like it the way it is
  
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  narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 08:01:09 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
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  @NEETzsche @marine @lain @Kirino @Moon @lebronjames75 @why I already brought up the expiration/persistence issue. Some days ago.
  
  as lebron mentioned
  >but if you were listening to it LIVE...
  
  Putting it below user name and is one option, and while it's mostly annoying for just music scrobbles and would be great for advertising that, say, you're livestreaming right now or playing CSGO/TF2/whatever and want ppl on fedi to join you. This specific usecase has been on my mind for years now and partly the reason why I care about this feature so much.
  
  Current implementation is in very early stages and has problems, hence why it's in develop and not in stable yet (some admins like me, moon and i think sjw) do merge that feature into their live version.
  
  Working with Neetzsche however has been...... difficult to say the least, and in meantime I am also still working on finishing up notifications improvements, working on 2.6.1 release AND having a dayjob all at the same time, please be patient and wait warmly. 🙏
  
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  narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 08:03:20 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
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  @NEETzsche @marine @lain @Kirino @Moon @lebronjames75 @why if scrobble have been fully user generated content people could just put a custom emoji in beginning in lieu of favicon, it would also allow for more creativity since custom emoji can be anything, i.e. "twitter bird on fire" is a typical """"favicon"""" for twitter.
  
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  narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 08:05:20 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
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  @Kirino @marine @NEETzsche @lain @Moon @lebronjames75 @why i do want to declutter PleromaFE, but it's not a simple task, as removing clutter in main UI adds clutter to settings, and that needs de-cluttering on its own too.
  
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  Kirino Kousaka (kirino@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 08:05:21 JST Kirino Kousaka
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  I mean, my opinion is it’s not required at all. I just want to make sure if it ever gets forked to an instance I’m on now then it’s as little intrusive as possible.
  Adding too much shit to the post makes me think you’d almost be better formatting like a xenforo forum just to declutter the space.
  
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  NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 08:33:34 JST NEETzsche
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  @hj how do you feel about trying to guess if the scrobble is "expired" (time now is greater than time of scrobble plus its length), and then making the scrobble become very muted, but not quite invisible, once it is?
  
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  narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 08:35:39 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
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  @NEETzsche @marine @lain @Kirino @Moon @lebronjames75 @why it would still occupy space, and making it muted just reduces readability of it.
  
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  NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 08:36:42 JST NEETzsche
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  @hj I forgot to mention, making it smaller, so it takes up less space visually.
  
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  narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 08:51:25 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
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  @NEETzsche @marine @lain @Kirino @Moon @lebronjames75 @why that certainly would be cool effect but it would also make it even less readable.
  
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  NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 08:54:23 JST NEETzsche
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  Alright. How about smaller text, but no color change, or maybe just a fairly subtle one? Basically the idea is when it’s active, it pops, takes up space, makes its presence known. When it’s not, it kinda just fades into the background without fully disappearing. That’s what I’m envisioning in my head. I might just try it out on my own and post screenshots to let you look.
  
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  narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 09:31:17 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
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  @NEETzsche @marine @lain @Kirino @Moon @lebronjames75 @why all I can say try it out, see how it looks, push changes for others to see and gather feedback.
  
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  NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 09:37:18 JST NEETzsche
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  I ended up putting my favicon shit into that PR by accident even though you said you wanted it in another one. Give it a try, see how you like it, before I rearrange it again.
  
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  NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Thursday, 30-Nov-2023 09:41:05 JST NEETzsche
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  Actually wait, the url–>externalLink transition may have broken other shit. I’ll fiddle with it tomorrow.
  
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