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    David Ho (davidho@mastodon.world)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Nov-2023 20:09:39 JST David Ho David Ho

    Emissions from motor vehicles could have decreased by over 30% from 2010 to 2022 if not for the popularity of SUVs. More pedestrians would be alive too.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/nov/24/motor-emissions-could-have-fallen-without-suv-trend-report

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      clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Nov-2023 20:09:41 JST clacke clacke
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      @qwazix Induced demand and the Jevons Paradox are real, but I don't think people would have found the time or interest to drive more because their cars were more effective? Isn't most driving commuting?

      I can imagine some uses going up, maybe fewer people carpooling if they're doing it purely out of economic necessity, but I don't see how car use would go up by 50%, that's a huge increase.

      If gas prices would have gone up to counter efficiency gains, through fuel taxation, car use could have even been kept level.

      @davidho

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      qwazix (qwazix@bananachips.club)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Nov-2023 20:09:42 JST qwazix qwazix
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      @davidho no they couldn't. It's induced demand all over again. Just as with leds we just shine more light, we would have found other ways to gobble up the efficiency of newer engines.

      All this efficiency thing is just "light cigarettes" from car manufacturers and oil corporations.

      I guess I need a "they played us for absolute fools" meme here...

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