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    Baldur Bjarnason (baldur@toot.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 19:59:44 JST Baldur Bjarnason Baldur Bjarnason

    ‘A startup is pitching a mind-uploading service that is “100 percent fatal” | MIT Technology Review’

    It certainly looks like Silicon Valley is devolving into competing branches of a singularity cult. https://www.technologyreview.com/2018/03/13/144721/a-startup-is-pitching-a-mind-uploading-service-that-is-100-percent-fatal/

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      A startup is pitching a mind-uploading service that is “100 percent fatal”
      Nectome will preserve your brain, but you have to be euthanized first.
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      gnutelephony (gnutelephony@floss.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 19:59:42 JST gnutelephony gnutelephony
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      @baldur if a brain is uploaded, can it's "information content" become the "exclusive" property of the service provider? An upload, if ever possible, is not a person, after all, it has no rights. It's just a commercial contract with a service provider.

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      Barry Schwartz 🫖 (chemoelectric@masto.ai)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 22:41:18 JST Barry Schwartz 🫖 Barry Schwartz 🫖
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      @gnutelephony @baldur I wouldn't worry, because the necessary computer is the original brain in its original body. And it is on life support. And, anyway, why would anyone bother to replicate some dead person from a Dark Age?

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      gnutelephony (gnutelephony@floss.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 22:41:18 JST gnutelephony gnutelephony
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      @chemoelectric @baldur indeed this very reason has always suggested to me it makes no sense even if it one day somehow become "technically" feasible to do. But I simply note the person would be considered "legally dead", and so all existing rights, including to their own body, would effectively end.

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      Barry Schwartz 🫖 (chemoelectric@masto.ai)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 22:46:52 JST Barry Schwartz 🫖 Barry Schwartz 🫖
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      @gnutelephony @baldur If it were merely a computer program, presumably so. If flesh, then probably it would be considered a new person, legally.

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      gnutelephony (gnutelephony@floss.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 22:46:52 JST gnutelephony gnutelephony
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      @chemoelectric @baldur an interesting hypothetical for a law school debate ;). But, if there is the concept of a state still around, no doubt there would be a state issued re-birth or resurrection certificate, too ;).

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      gnutelephony (gnutelephony@floss.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 22:50:49 JST gnutelephony gnutelephony
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      @chemoelectric @baldur I would say they are material (physical) devices, rather than signaling, too. Chemicals are exchanged. Matter is moved about. Etc.

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      Barry Schwartz 🫖 (chemoelectric@masto.ai)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 22:50:50 JST Barry Schwartz 🫖 Barry Schwartz 🫖
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      @gnutelephony @baldur The key mistake made here is thinking that a person is a digital program. It is a widespread error. It is not so. Brains do not work that way. They are analog devices, if you will.

      This should be obvious from the fact neurons often send chains of pulses, but never serial codes.

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      gnutelephony (gnutelephony@floss.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 22:52:17 JST gnutelephony gnutelephony
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      @chemoelectric @baldur yep, "monkey-patching" 🤣 .

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      Barry Schwartz 🫖 (chemoelectric@masto.ai)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 22:52:18 JST Barry Schwartz 🫖 Barry Schwartz 🫖
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      @gnutelephony @baldur Brains also "reprogram" themselves by patch wiring!

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