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   寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-2022 22:51:46 JST 寮
   Picking the right programming language for both newbies and professionals
   http://asc7ewkcvat2wsoi5yuwkej5ukyrqqnpnzpj4u34r2jxnoxhnbx6yqad.onion/blog/picking-the-right-programming-language/
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-2022 23:15:56 JST Lina Inver?e

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     @ryo i remember when java phones were the shit
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     Udon (udon@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Thursday, 06-Oct-2022 00:54:13 JST Udon

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     > Technically a Goolag product, but the company itself is barely even involved.
     https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31508000
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     xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Thursday, 06-Oct-2022 08:54:25 JST xianc78

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     >both newbies and professionals
     There's your problem right there. If it's designed for both newbies and professionals then they are going to stick with that language and not move on to anything else. That's why people are developing trying to develop professional software in languages like Python, JavaScript, and Java even if C/C++ are better choices.

     We need to bring back BASIC. It's solely meant for educational purposes and nothing else. Nobody made professional software in it (maybe outside of a few video games, but those can be an exception). And everyone moved on to languages like C, C++, Pascal, and Assembly afterward.

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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Thursday, 06-Oct-2022 08:57:33 JST 寮

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     @xianc78 I know, though it's more about picking a language that meets these 5 criteria rather than "pick something easy and fuck the real work" like what most others would do.
     And the 5 criteria I gave are of benefit for both newbies and professionals (offline documentation, common sense syntax, and so on).
     You might have noticed that ease of use wasn't even a thing in this article, that would have made my rankings seem very different (and subjective rather than objective).
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Thursday, 06-Oct-2022 08:58:38 JST 寮

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     @xianc78 Also, how about QBasic nerds?
     https://youtube.076.ne.jp/watch?v=Mal6XbN5cEg
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     yasu (yasu@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Thursday, 06-Oct-2022 09:10:49 JST yasu

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     >Please no EPUBs, nothing like that!
     Is there something wrong with the format in general or is it just because it's not adequate for documentation? I use it only for books.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Thursday, 06-Oct-2022 09:10:49 JST 寮

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     @yasu Proprietary format that can only be opened in WinDOS or macOS only applications.
     Melon Books once sold me a digital manga that could only be opened using their own proprietary viewer, so from that point on I started to refuse to read any digitally bought books ever again, it's such a scam!
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     yasu (yasu@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Thursday, 06-Oct-2022 14:04:57 JST yasu

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     @ryo It's an open format by default but it supports DRM if the publisher wants. The books I download don't have it and can be read with zathura just fine. Still, it's pretty shitty for them to support it. I used to have a small grudge against PDFs due to Adobe, but I guess it doesn't really matter nowadays.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Thursday, 06-Oct-2022 14:04:57 JST 寮

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     @yasu I see.
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     AA1874【フェディワイヤード公式】AA1874/VERKALL STRAN official Fedi-Wired acc (aa1874@iddqd.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Oct-2022 09:19:43 JST AA1874【フェディワイヤード公式】AA1874/VERKALL STRAN official Fedi-Wired acc

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     opinions on that soy language called Rust?
     
     apart from the fact that it was invented within cuckzilla
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Friday, 07-Oct-2022 09:21:08 JST 寮

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     @aa1874 I never worked with the language at all, which is why I excluded it.
     I didn't work with Ruby much either, but at least I tried to learn it a few times before, I didn't even get to that point with Rust.
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     NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Oct-2022 17:19:27 JST NEETzsche

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     I think you should discuss Rust with @e since he likes that language and I respect his technical opinion on it

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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Friday, 07-Oct-2022 22:49:07 JST 寮

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     @e @NEETzsche @aa1874
     > async await
     
     Please no, I'm still getting nightmares from asynchronous coding because of NodeJS...
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     ew (e@masochi.st)'s status on Friday, 07-Oct-2022 22:49:11 JST ew

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     • AA1874【フェディワイヤード公式】AA1874/VERKALL STRAN official Fedi-Wired acc
     @NEETzsche @aa1874 @ryo it used to be pretty annoying back when you had to explicitly declare all the lifetimes but they improved it a lot and there's not a lot of gripes I have about it. my main issues with it are matters of preference, like I think it'd be cool if they had done implicit async await rather than explicit, or stuff that hasn't been implemented yet but are being worked on (enum variant specialization, better const generics, etc). the library ecosystem is already pretty great but it doesn't compete with npm. if it was a shitty language people would be able to attack it for something other than being related to trannies
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     ew (e@masochi.st)'s status on Friday, 07-Oct-2022 23:06:47 JST ew

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     @ryo @NEETzsche @aa1874 what issue do you have with async await?
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Friday, 07-Oct-2022 23:06:58 JST 寮

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     @e @NEETzsche @aa1874 It's weird AF.