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   Queen Calyo Delphi (dragonarchitect@rubber.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2023 09:38:18 JST Queen Calyo Delphi

   I am frustrated.

   I do not--DO NOT--want to have to go back to using Another Capitalist Social Network.

   But there enough nasty and acidic "lefty" people here on Mastodon that they are literally ruining this network and making it hostile to anybody not a parrot of their ideological in-groups.

   It stands to chase away people I am Very Much Interested In, or that I care about, who genuinely want what's best for this place.

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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2023 09:38:15 JST Pawlicker

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     • :marseyloadingneon: m0xEE :marseyloading:
     @m0xEE @dragonarchitect The thing with the fedi and fediblocking is it's a great example of a people problem and not a protocol problem.
     
     A lot of people were on Twitter, which gave the illusion of safety or at least had/has a lot of tools in place, especially a year or so before the Elon Musk buyout. They were not only growing up "protected", but even demanding more protection.
     
     So they signed up for Mastodon because they read it was like Twitter but without the bad people, but even in an instance with massive blocklists and signed fetches on; they came to a horrible realization. The enemy was within.
     
     There is an extreme level of paranoia on "alternative" internet circles, and I mean extreme. Their method of coping with normies has been to become an internet cult in a way, except as one poastie said there's also no purity or orthodoxy imposed from above in progressive internet circles like there would be in say a church or old-school cult. Anyone and everyone who hasn't listened to the latest thing on Twitter could be a Nazi. There could be Nazis everywhere.
     
     Furthermore as anyone has seen from Discord, the same people who put on this show are also deeply craving that power trip. They want to ban anyone they don't like and make them go away. The end result is why fediblocked instances complain, like with qoto a few months back. They will never understand that with the crew they keep company they will never be pure.
     
     Speaking of that:
     >Not only people nowadays expect to interact only with people they like online, they expect it to be someone else's job to grant it — this is not normal on so many levels!
     
     This is also a side effect of modern social media. Modern social media is run under a guise of either protecting users from anything bad, or to ensure that anything bad could have never happened. The same mindset that thinks that the NZ shooting/CVille/J6/(Insert outrage of the month here) could have been prevented with more censorship also has been overplaying their hand so many times as of late has backfired, leading to the fedi booming as a chance to escape these people. But it's also led to a generation that learns, if you spam report enough you can make the bad people you don't like go away.
     
     As we all know, this doesn't actually work, but just like how a problem gambler will keep gambling hoping to "hit big" only to lose it all 5 minutes later, the same goes with these types hoping that if enough problem people go away they'll be happy. What ends up is they turn on themselves and the rest is history.
      and ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: like this.
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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2023 09:38:17 JST Pawlicker

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     @dragonarchitect >But there enough nasty and acidic "lefty" people here on Mastodon that they are literally ruining this network and making it hostile to anybody not a parrot of their ideological in-groups.
     
     just call them names on the internet
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     :marseyloadingneon: m0xEE :marseyloading: (m0xee@breloma.m0xee.net)'s status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2023 09:38:17 JST :marseyloadingneon: m0xEE :marseyloading:

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     • Pawlicker
     @PurpCat @dragonarchitect
     > I have multiple friends who've already said hell no to this place after taking one look at it. THEY DID NOT HAVE TO LOOK VERY HARD TO FIND IT AND PEACE OUT
     "Oh my god, this social network with hundreds of thousands users has people whom I don't like, I'm leaving"
     Are these people even serious?! 🤯
     Damn of course people whom you don't like exist and it's not social network's job to pretend they don't. I have a lot of fun here, but even for me there a those here communicating with which I find very tiresome and unpleasant… And I just don't! What's so hard about that? And even if you simply can't stand certain things on your timeline, you can just block people posting them, even block entire instances. It's that simple!
     Not only people nowadays expect to interact only with people they like online, they expect it to be someone else's job to grant it — this is not normal on so many levels!
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     Queen Calyo Delphi (dragonarchitect@rubber.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Nov-2023 09:38:18 JST Queen Calyo Delphi

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     I have multiple friends who've already said hell no to this place after taking one look at it. THEY DID NOT HAVE TO LOOK VERY HARD TO FIND IT AND PEACE OUT.

     It honestly makes me, a neurodivergent kink-positive queer furry, someone who ticks off MULTIPLE boxes of margnalized groups that Capitalist Social Networks tacitly make clear they do not want because we violate capitalist sensibilities, concerned for my own long-term future here.