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    HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 17:20:59 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴

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    #WarInGaza - an insightful perspective

    Yesterday, I posted a reply to the, IMHO, unbalanced view of respected German philosopher, #JurgenHabermas*.

    As he chiefly saw the #Jewish side of the conflict, I tried to balance this, taking all sides legitimate interests into account, while adding the civilian Palestinian perspective.

    Today, I came across an excellent recent op'ed in the #NYT by #ThomasLFriedman, who--while seeing...

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    https://archive.is/yNDJF#selection-359.0-359.18

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    https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/111421778954924421

    In conversation Friday, 17-Nov-2023 17:20:59 JST from mastodon.social permalink

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      HistoPol (@HistoPol@mastodon.social)
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      (1/6) Klares: nein von mir. Bitte mal nicht die schöngefärbten Nachrichten in Deutschland, sondern die neutralen z.B. von #PBS (gestern) aus den #USA ansehen. Der #Gazastreifen, bis vor kurzem Lebensgrundlage für über 2 Millionen Menschen, wird dem Erdboden gleich gemacht. Für die Erreichung des, sicherlich gerechtfertigten Ziels, die #Hamas auszulöschen, wird buchstäblich über tausende Leichen unbeteiligter Palästinenser, aber auch ausländischer Hilfskräfte und ... https://mastodon.social/@ThomasKnorra/111421441307697547
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      ...while seeing things from a #Jewish perspective, too--has an excellent knowlege of the region, its players, and its history.

      Some of my takeaways from his piece [hashtags and emojis, as always are mine]:

      "#Israel is in real danger — more danger than at any other time since its War of Independence in 1948...for three key reasons:"

      1) "Israel is facing threats from a set of enemies who combine medieval #theocratic worldviews with 21st-century weaponry — and...

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      ...are no longer organized as small bands of militiamen but as modern armies with brigades, battalions, cybercapabilities, long-range rockets, drones and technical support...#Hamas, #Hezbollah, #Islamic militias in #Iraq and the #Houthis in #Yemen...and #VladimirPutin."

      2) "...the only conceivable way that #Israel can generate the legitimacy, resources, time and allies to fight such a difficult war with so many enemies is if it has unwavering...

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      ... partners abroad, led by the #UnitedStates.
      "But #Biden can sustainably generate the support Israel needs only if #Israel is ready to engage in some kind of a wartime diplomatic initiative directed at the #Palestinians in the #WestBank — and hopefully in a post-#Hamas #Gaza — that indicates Israel will discuss some kind of two-state solutions #if Palestinian officials can get their political house unified and in order."

      3) "...Israel has the worst leader in its history — ...

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      ...maybe in all of #Jewish history — who has no will or ability to produce such an initiative...Worse...Prime Minister #BenjaminNetanyahu, continues to put the interests of holding on to the support of his far-right base...ahead of maintaining national solidarity or doing some of the basic things that #Biden needs."

      Hamas' and their allies' strategy is becoming clearer:

      "...#Israelis to begin driving up real estate prices in seemingly safer central #Israeli...

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      ...towns. For #Hezbollah, that alone is mission accomplished, without even invading like #Hamas. Together, #Hezbollah and Hamas are managing to shrink Israel."

      The #Hamas terrorists are instilling fear in the hearts of #Israelis:

      "This kind of chilling exuberance — #Israel was built so that such a thing could never happen — explains the homemade sign I saw [...in] #Jerusalem: “It’s either us or them.

      The euphoric rampage of Oct. 7 that killed some 1,400 soldiers and...

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      ...civilians has not only hardened #Israeli hearts toward the suffering of #Gaza civilians. It has also inflicted a deep sense of humiliation and guilt on the Israeli #Army and defense establishment..."

      "...[The] conviction in the army [is] that it must demonstrate to the entire neighborhood [see enemies above...] that it will stop at nothing to re-establish the security of the borders...it wants to show that no one can outcrazy #Israel..."

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      ...To all this, "...#Netanyahu is saying that seven million Jews are going to indefinitely control the lives of five million #Palestinians in the #WestBank and #Gaza — while offering them no political horizon, nothing, by way of statehood one day on any demilitarized conditions...Really?"

      A very explosive combination.

      Before that, he had made a huge mistake: After "...being slammed by the public for digitally stabbing his army and intelligence chiefs in the back...

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      ... in the middle of a war, #Netanyahu published a new post. “I was wrong,” ...But the damage was done."

      The essential first step for a solution coincides with what I wrote last week:

      "The sooner #Israel replaces Netanyahu and his far-right allies with a true center-left-center-right national unity government, the better chance it has to hold together during...

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      HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 17:52:43 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸  🏴 HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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      ...what is going to be a hellish war and aftermath. And the better chance that #Biden...will not have hitched his credibility and ours to a #Netanyahu #Israel that will never be able to fully help us to help it.
      This society is so much better than its leader."

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      @mina

      I'd like to contradict you, but I, very sadly, have to agree with your stance, Mina. :(

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      Mina (mina@berlin.social)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 18:25:03 JST Mina Mina
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      @HistoPol

      This analysis actually makes very much sense to me, and yet I fear, everything will take the worst possible way:

      As long as Netanyahu's coalition holds, he won't resign.

      Dead bodies will continue to pile up and there will be no step towards a political solution, I fear, and all this plays into the hands of Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran etc.

      In conversation Friday, 17-Nov-2023 18:25:03 JST permalink

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