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   clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 16-Nov-2023 18:36:41 JST clacke

   After five minutes side quest, find a window open with an email.

   "Oh, I didn't send that yet?"
   *send*

   Oh right, the side quest was to find some data that was supposed to go in that email.

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 16-Nov-2023 18:40:42 JST Sexy Moon

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     @clacke neat feature would be "did you mean to never send this draft?"
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 16-Nov-2023 22:13:43 JST clacke

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     • Sexy Moon
     @Moon I should have just typed the word "attachment" before leaving the window! That triggers this. At least on Thunderbird, but I hope on Outlook too.
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     Kermode (gemlog@tilde.zone)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 16:32:05 JST Kermode

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     @clacke We've all been there bud.
     In that sense, the Edit function in fedi is superior to emails.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 16:35:15 JST clacke

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     For Fedi and email alike, I'd like a feature "stay in the outbox for 60 seconds before actually sending", so you can truly retract something.

     Outlook does have retraction of emails that people have not yet opened, but it always takes me too long to remember/search how to do it that it's no longer worth it. 😅

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     Elias Mårtenson (loke@functional.cafe)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 18:09:08 JST Elias Mårtenson

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     @clacke Outlook does have that, and I have enabled it. It has saved me a ridiculous number of times when sending work mails.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 18:09:08 JST clacke

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     • Elias Mårtenson
     @loke Oh! I will look for it right away.
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 18:09:08 JST clacke

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     So I just create a new email rule, apply to all messages I send, defer delivery by 1 minutes. Brilliant!

     support.microsoft.com/en-us/of…

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 18:09:13 JST clacke

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     • Elias Mårtenson
     @tfb @loke There is only one feature. If your mail server (or client?) is an Outlook server (or client?) it will act on the original message and delete it if you didn't yet open it.
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     Thomas (tfb@functional.cafe)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 18:09:14 JST Thomas

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     • Elias Mårtenson

     @loke @clacke Oh! Since I see both deleted emails and "recalls" from the same people, I'd assumed they were the same feature, and it just did the dumb recall thing if it couldn't delete the mail on the server

     What I hadn't considered is that they're two different features, and probably the users are confused as to which they're using

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     Thomas (tfb@functional.cafe)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 18:09:16 JST Thomas

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     • Elias Mårtenson

     @loke @clacke As the frequent recipient of "Lorraine Ipsum would like to recall the message..." emails, I don't think it works as well as its users believe it does

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     Elias Mårtenson (loke@functional.cafe)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 18:09:16 JST Elias Mårtenson

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     • Thomas

     @tfb @clacke I'll be the first one to poop on Microsoft at any opportunity I can get, but in this case the functionality is there. It's up to users to use it.

     That said, the existence of the "recall" feature is bad, and it should be removed. It tricks people into believing that you can recall emails, which is of course not possible.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 19:20:34 JST clacke

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     • Elias Mårtenson

     @loke @tfb Right, sorry, we were in fact talking about three features. I forgot which subthread we were in.

     The feature I learned about today, and which only works on Outlook Desktop, is that when you send a message a filter can automatically schedule it for sending, up to 120 minutes in the future. The message will sit in Outbox and wait until it is time.

     This allows you to do true retraction, as nobody got the message yet.

     And just now I learned that Outlook Web has a similar but different feature, where sending can be delayed up to ten seconds and you have an immediately accessible Undo button.

     The "only one feature" I was referring to is the technically impossible but practically best-effort feature "I'll send a message to please retract the original message, which may or may not work depending on software involved and other factors".

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     Elias Mårtenson (loke@functional.cafe)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 19:20:35 JST Elias Mårtenson

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     • Thomas

     @tfb @clacke This is the feature I'm talking about:

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     Elias Mårtenson (loke@functional.cafe)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 19:20:36 JST Elias Mårtenson

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     • Thomas

     @tfb @clacke The delayed sending is a feature of the Outlook UI, I would guess.

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     Thomas (tfb@functional.cafe)'s status on Friday, 17-Nov-2023 19:20:37 JST Thomas

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     • Elias Mårtenson

     @clacke @loke Weird, because we're using O365 at work now ... perhaps my use of Evolution screws it up

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     🌈 breaking ranks. 🇺🇦 (rebekka_m@fnordon.de)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2024 17:37:17 JST 🌈 breaking ranks. 🇺🇦

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     @clacke one of various reasons for the fact that I did configure [very, very, very long ago] a delay of one minute after hitting "send email" in my office mail account! 😁

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Jan-2024 17:37:19 JST clacke

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     • 🌈 breaking ranks. 🇺🇦

     @rebekka_m Yes! I've configured that since this thread, and it saved me trouble multiple times already the first week. 😅

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