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   🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 16-Nov-2023 11:00:51 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

   • Lauralee Dukeshire

   @LauraleeDukeshire Where is the "I dont think these are valid terms" option?

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     Lauralee Dukeshire (lauraleedukeshire@mstdn.ca)'s status on Thursday, 16-Nov-2023 12:52:37 JST Lauralee Dukeshire

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     @freemo What were you hoping to achieve in asking that question?

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     • Lauralee Dukeshire

     @LauraleeDukeshire

     Thoughtfulness and reflection on if they are useful terms and why or why not.

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     Lauralee Dukeshire (lauraleedukeshire@mstdn.ca)'s status on Thursday, 16-Nov-2023 13:04:56 JST Lauralee Dukeshire

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     @freemo it came across to me as passive aggressive confrontation. Which did not inspire thoughtful reflection but rather fight/flight response. If you are looking for thoughtful discussion, politely presenting your opinion would have been a better starting place.

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     • Lauralee Dukeshire

     @LauraleeDukeshire

     I am sorry you took my intent as passive agressive, that was not the intent.

     What exactly in my response did you find impolite?

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     Lauralee Dukeshire (lauraleedukeshire@mstdn.ca)'s status on Thursday, 16-Nov-2023 13:37:33 JST Lauralee Dukeshire

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     @freemo I didn't say your response was impolite. I said it came across as confrontational.

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     • Lauralee Dukeshire

     @LauraleeDukeshire

     You said:

     politely presenting your opinion would have been a better starting place.

     But what about my question came across co frontational? How do you feel it could have been phrased better?

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     Lauralee Dukeshire (lauraleedukeshire@mstdn.ca)'s status on Thursday, 16-Nov-2023 13:50:42 JST Lauralee Dukeshire

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     @freemo You presented a judgement about the terms used in my poll (implying the whole exercise was invalid) but didn't explain why you thought that way. You made an assertion without any explanation. It was like throwing a pie in someone's face as you walk by or "here have a grenade". It was a pronouncement in the form of a rhetorical question. It did not seem like an invitation to a discussion.

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     • Lauralee Dukeshire

     @LauraleeDukeshire

     I see, thanks for your perspective. Curious take.

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     • Alistair K
     • Lauralee Dukeshire

     @libroraptor

     Same, I am of the opinion that the terms are harmful in general for society.

     @LauraleeDukeshire

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     Alistair K (libroraptor@mastodon.nz)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 09:54:11 JST Alistair K

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     • Lauralee Dukeshire

     @freemo @LauraleeDukeshire I don't know whether this helps you, but psychometric tests show that I am not a normal thinker. But, in my depleted state, I present as above average. The system doesn't care whether I'm healthy and get my capacity back; it works only for me to be "normal" – thus they do hardly anything to help.

     Same in audiology when I lost an octave overnight. Still tested well above average so they sent me away.

     My experience is that "typical" vs "divergent" is harmful to me.

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     Alistair K (libroraptor@mastodon.nz)'s status on Thursday, 23-Nov-2023 13:22:12 JST Alistair K

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     • Lauralee Dukeshire

     @freemo @LauraleeDukeshire What particular kinds of harm concern you?

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     • Alistair K
     • Lauralee Dukeshire

     @libroraptor

     All harm, the kind that Alistair describes above that caused harm to him is an example. Usually when we try to put people in boxes it tends to cause harm.

     @LauraleeDukeshire