How come Matrix, Mumble and etc. aren't as used widely as they should be? Most normies communicate on platforms convenient and targeted for them, such as Messenger, Discord, etc.
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framebuffer :archlinux: :gentoo: :tuxspin: (fuzzylinuxuser@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Nov-2023 19:42:24 JST framebuffer :archlinux: :gentoo: :tuxspin: -
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Iska (iska@catposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Nov-2023 19:42:23 JST Iska @fuzzylinuxuser@den.raccoon.quest discord was shilled by every youtuber back in the day none of which are aware of freedom issues, and now people want to stay there
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Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Nov-2023 19:43:56 JST Sexy Moon @jihadjimmy @dushman @fuzzylinuxuser > deliberately cripple the regular usage
bandwidth and storage isn't free, it's not unreasonable to charge for higher quality streaming and bigger attachments. the paste thing is deliberate crippling though yeahHaelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: likes this. -
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𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 (jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Nov-2023 19:43:58 JST 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 @fuzzylinuxuser @dushman
> the only thing I ever hear about Discord nowadays is that all they do is add Nitro features
By that you mean they deliberately cripple the regular usage of the client to make the experience artificially inconvenient and then paywall the proper non-crippled version.
You can't send a message with +2000 characters on Discord, meanwhile XMPP allows to send base64 encoded binaries to your heart's content.
> That tells you a lot about them already, when FOSS can have all that stuff in the first place.
Better yet, free software has it and isn't morally braindead.
> Not to mention that people in Discord are weird as fuck
Nah, people in Fedi are weird, people in Discord behave like NPCs and retards that are too scared of offending each other. -
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framebuffer :archlinux: :gentoo: :tuxspin: (fuzzylinuxuser@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Nov-2023 19:43:59 JST framebuffer :archlinux: :gentoo: :tuxspin: @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe @dushman@den.raccoon.quest To add, the only thing I ever hear about Discord nowadays is that all they do is add Nitro features and that's about it. That tells you a lot about them already, when FOSS can have all that stuff in the first place. Not to mention that people in Discord are weird as fuck
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𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 (jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Nov-2023 19:44:00 JST 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 @fuzzylinuxuser
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> Discord and its consequences
As much fault of Discord as your average gamertard. -
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framebuffer :archlinux: :gentoo: :tuxspin: (fuzzylinuxuser@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Nov-2023 19:44:01 JST framebuffer :archlinux: :gentoo: :tuxspin: @dushman Discord and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race :tedkmad:
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framebuffer :archlinux: :gentoo: :tuxspin: (fuzzylinuxuser@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Nov-2023 19:44:02 JST framebuffer :archlinux: :gentoo: :tuxspin: @dushman That's awesome! I should emerge --verbose new word 'pisscord' for my vocabulary :neofox_cool:
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Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Nov-2023 19:44:03 JST Dushman @fuzzylinuxuser
The voice just works and you can get it to be much higher quality than pisscord. Also mumble servers only use like 7mb of RAM idling. -
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Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Nov-2023 19:44:05 JST Dushman @fuzzylinuxuser
I mean they are extremely similar but mumble is open source so it's better lol -
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framebuffer :archlinux: :gentoo: :tuxspin: (fuzzylinuxuser@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Nov-2023 19:44:06 JST framebuffer :archlinux: :gentoo: :tuxspin: @dushman What do you or did like the most about them? :neofox_happy:
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Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Nov-2023 19:44:07 JST Dushman @fuzzylinuxuser
I was actually using mumble and teamspeak concurrently at one point lol -
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framebuffer :archlinux: :gentoo: :tuxspin: (fuzzylinuxuser@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Nov-2023 19:44:08 JST framebuffer :archlinux: :gentoo: :tuxspin: @dushman I've tried Teamspeak like, nearly a decade ago haha, but since then that's all I remember
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Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Nov-2023 19:44:09 JST Dushman @fuzzylinuxuser
Not old enough to remember it much? I was using teamspeak in its hayday lol. -
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framebuffer :archlinux: :gentoo: :tuxspin: (fuzzylinuxuser@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Nov-2023 19:44:11 JST framebuffer :archlinux: :gentoo: :tuxspin: @dushman It's been a while since I've heard the word "teamspeak". If I recall, it was used long before Discord was even a thing. I don't like how Discord rules the online communication, because there are already big bad points:
- company shares belong to Tencent
- not much encryption
- milking users and bad culture -
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Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Nov-2023 19:44:12 JST Dushman @fuzzylinuxuser
It basically just open source teamspeak. Just works and it's very light. -
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framebuffer :archlinux: :gentoo: :tuxspin: (fuzzylinuxuser@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Nov-2023 19:44:13 JST framebuffer :archlinux: :gentoo: :tuxspin: @dushman Yeah, I've heard positives about Mumble, it's always nice to see FOSS! I'll consider joining :>
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Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Nov-2023 19:44:15 JST Dushman @fuzzylinuxuser
You can have a private channel if you want -
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Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Nov-2023 19:44:16 JST Dushman @fuzzylinuxuser
We have a mumble at raccoon.quest if you wanna talk there -
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Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Nov-2023 19:49:15 JST Sexy Moon @jihadjimmy @dushman @fuzzylinuxuser if that's the angle you want to come at it from then I agree. incidentally has anyone actually used the peer to peer streaming on peertube? it seems like everybody disables it so it doesn't leak ips -
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𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 (jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Nov-2023 19:49:17 JST 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 @Moon @dushman @fuzzylinuxuser
> bandwidth and storage isn't free
I missed the part where that's anyone's problem. This is only an issue because the whole service is centralized.
Also they already do way more money selling data than from Nitro subscriptions. -
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Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Thursday, 16-Nov-2023 04:31:35 JST Pleroma-tan @meso @fuzzylinuxuser I have never noticed a memory leak on mumble before are you sure it's not just the packages your distro is putting in, debian stable probably has this fixed -
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meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 16-Nov-2023 04:31:36 JST meso @fuzzylinuxuser They kinda just suck not Mumble Mumble is fine although it memory leaks and balloons up to gigabytes of RAM usage (make sure to check your system usage when running it and restarting it when it goes too high), not sure how they haven't fixed that yet or why it happens, though it's not a very significant issue at all and everything else about it is perfectly smooth. And Matrix needs no explaining. insecure, slow, heavy, borderline monopolized by Element. -
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framebuffer :archlinux: :gentoo: :tuxspin: (fuzzylinuxuser@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 16-Nov-2023 04:31:37 JST framebuffer :archlinux: :gentoo: :tuxspin: @meso@the.asbestos.cafe Oh, hey meso! I'd love to hear more on why. In your opinion, what exactly makes them suck?
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meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 16-Nov-2023 04:31:38 JST meso @fuzzylinuxuser Because they fucking suck -
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meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 16-Nov-2023 04:53:17 JST meso @kirby @fuzzylinuxuser are you sure? have you checked the resource usage? it might be the distro package, I don't know what the issue is caused by as there's very little about it online, but it's consistent across installations. I was really surprised when I opened the system resource viewer and saw the RAM usage, it's a very weird issue. try checking that after a few hours of running/talking (or like half an hour should be enough for a very noticeable increase), maybe it happens on your system too. I didn't notice until like a year of using it. it's not a very big issue I don't particularly care about it Pleroma-tan likes this. -
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Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Thursday, 16-Nov-2023 04:54:16 JST Pleroma-tan @meso @fuzzylinuxuser I never have but I can't recall a time where I was able to notice a memory leak for mumble on openbsd/debian.
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