@darnell the one-state solution seems like an idea that different people see different ways. Bernard Smotrich proposed a dystopian single state where heavily-policed Palestinians with no civil rights provide labour for Israel. Islamists propose a medieval system in which a Muslim majority rules over chastened Christian and Jewish millets. I don't think either is a great option.
@darnell one idea I find interesting is the two-state mini-EU model. Both peoples have sovereign states and govern territory, but citizens of either state can reside or work in the other.
@evan@darnell It's probably a bad idea, but maybe the residents of Gaza and the West Bank could stay where they are, and become citizens of some other state? The former was once part of Egypt, and the latter part of Jordan, and I understand that neither of those countries want to regain sovereignty. Maybe Turkish exclaves...
@evan As I indicated responding to the self-determination poll, I strongly support the flourishing of nations, but I do not believe that necessarily requires nation-states. Incorporation of a nationality into a liberal democratic state [0] is not "erasure of a people", so long as the larger state respects the rights of the smaller nationality, particularly regarding schools.
Maybe a bad idea, but not repugnant.
[0] Not completely true of Egypt, Jordan or Turkey at present, granted.
@mpjgregoire the 7M Palestinians in Gaza, the West Bank and Israel are a large enough population to sustain their own nation-state. They are not shopping for a new occupier.
The proposal that responsibilities for them should be shifted to another country is patronizing. It's a common trope of the Israeli hard right. The idea that all Arabs are about the same, from Morocco to the Gulf, so you can just move them anywhere, is abhorrent.
I am not interested in further discussion on this topic.
@evan The first rule of holes is when you're in one, you should stop digging. But I'll respond anyway...
For as long as I've been aware of the Israel-Palestine conflict, I've supported a two-state solution. I feel like a two-state solution is further away in 2023 than it's been at any point in my life. And a one-state solution is even less likely than two-state.
It looks like the poor Gazans are going to pass from Hamas rule to Israeli military occupation. What better options are feasible now?