Panther Modern
Well well well... Andreessen Horowitz admits, in no uncertain terms, that if they had to compensate artists for using their art to train their #aiart ripoff models, that their investments wouldn't be worth it.
Absolutely damning admission which spells out in no uncertain terms that these firms *KNOW* they are ripping artists off.
Fuck #StableDiffusion, #MidJourney, and techbros everywhere.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/andreessen-horowitz-not-techno-optimistic-100002519.html
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Panther Modern
@feld Because that's not how it works and you know it.
Get out of here with those bad faith arguments.
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Panther Modern
@feld Rip offs are a well-covered part of both copyright law and art culture itself.
Copyright law handles the legal part, and art culture shuns those who rip off others.
It's not about "100% identical to the source material", because we're talking about a model that copies a _style_.
Don't give me any bullshit about how art styles can't be copyrighted, because that's not what we're talking about here:
We're talking about the unauthorized use of artwork as TRAINING DATA.
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@panther_modern@mastodon.social What's the difference between an artist studying the works of another artist for use as training data in the creation of their own art? @feld@bikeshed.party
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Panther Modern
How interesting that you continually ignore the fact that this is already covered by current copyright laws.
Just because someone displays their artwork on their webpage for others to view, does not mean that a businessman can hire people to write an algorithm to make money by using your artowrk as training data.
That's not "Fair Use", nor is it "Derivative Works".
Can you point me to any other example where merely displaying your work gives others the right to use it for profit?
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Panther Modern
@feld Another bad faith argument.
Why don't you just admit you don't think artists should be paid?
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@feld@bikeshed.party I totally understand what you mean, I remember when the big transition from film photography to digital photography began as it became cheap and accessible to the masses and all these photographers online would smugly attest that any digital photography wasn't "real photography" but rather "digital imaging" and somehow didn't count or wasn't "artistic" or whatever whatever. @panther_modern@mastodon.social
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eggplant_3
Hello!
@feld @panther_modern LOOOOOL
OF COURSE a moron who supports AI art and using artists’ work to make money without even compensating them is also a fan of NFTs
Go play outside and let the adults talk, you clown
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