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   Nathan Schneider (ntnsndr@social.coop)'s status on Saturday, 11-Nov-2023 00:20:18 JST Nathan Schneider

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   • Janet Vertesi

   @cyberlyra we should be careful not to blame the victims though. Most of us are not in a position to build useful tech ourselves. But we can demand that policy and the industry enable

   - community ownership
   - social purpose
   - open standards

   as the default for tech we rely on.

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     Janet Vertesi (cyberlyra@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 11-Nov-2023 00:20:19 JST Janet Vertesi

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     Like, dudes, if you want a community, you gotta build it yourself. Ain’t no CEO whose Board is pushing for shareholder value gonna do it for you.

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     Janet Vertesi (cyberlyra@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 11-Nov-2023 00:20:21 JST Janet Vertesi

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     So here’s another one for you. Did people really think the new CEO of Reddit just “didn’t get it” when he was making all these rapid changes, like he didn’t understand how upset the communities would be? Instead of a specific decision for monetization by cashing in on an existing treasure trove, a repository of traces of people just chatting and exchanging ideas naturally online, to build naturalistic LLMs? Because that one also seemed desperately obvious—to me at least.

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     Janet Vertesi (cyberlyra@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 11-Nov-2023 00:20:22 JST Janet Vertesi

     Everyone is talking about Copilot on GitHub like this is new, but I figured it was pretty obvious from the beginning that’s why they acquired it. So what did people think of the acquisition if they didn’t think it was to use all the data to generate an assistive AI?is this honestly coming out of left field? Or is this just the moment where people are begrudgingly acknowledging the situation?