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   寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 03-Oct-2022 13:34:16 JST 寮
   2 ThinkPads, X200 and X260.
   Both Artix, both i3 with the exact same rice, both 8 GiB of RAM.
   However, on the X200 whenever I run a video in MPV, it suddenly starts using up all of the RAM and Swap in a matter of a few seconds, and never releases any of it until I reboot the entire PC, no issue with music files though.
   On the X260 on the other hand, there's no such issue.
   
   Really weird...
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     ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Monday, 03-Oct-2022 15:15:24 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??

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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 03-Oct-2022 15:17:19 JST 寮

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     @PhenomX6 X200, not X201.
     So with a Core 2 Duo instead of an i-series processor.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 03-Oct-2022 17:29:15 JST 寮

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     @PhenomX6 Because of the processor?
     So I should be better off with VLC in the case of Core 2 Duo?
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     ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Monday, 03-Oct-2022 17:29:16 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??

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     @ryo Oh no no no, that might be why you're having bugs and bloat problems.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 03-Oct-2022 20:13:54 JST 寮

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     @PhenomX6 OK, just confirmed that VLC doesn't have this RAM problem, so I guess I'll be using that.
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     Lumeinshin (lumeinshin@pleroma.skyshanty.xyz)'s status on Monday, 03-Oct-2022 20:18:13 JST Lumeinshin

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     @ryo @PhenomX6
     weird that you'd have that issue with MPV, do you think it may be a bug with the particular version?
     if VLC works fine just keep up with that i guess, at least somethings working well on it
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 03-Oct-2022 20:20:38 JST 寮

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     @Lumeinshin @PhenomX6 Apparently, MPV doesn't seem to be working well with Core 2 Duo processors.
     Loading any video will make the RAM and swap usage balloon up to the max in a matter of seconds, and even if you manage to stop it before the entire PC crashes, it'll be permanently stuck in the cache (so memory will never get released until a full reboot).
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     Lumeinshin (lumeinshin@pleroma.skyshanty.xyz)'s status on Monday, 03-Oct-2022 20:24:25 JST Lumeinshin

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     @ryo @PhenomX6 that is very odd, hopefully they can patch it soon
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     Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Oct-2022 09:06:09 JST Terminal Autism

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     @ryo @PhenomX6 How about Mplayer? That's mpv's predecessor.
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     @TerminalAutism @PhenomX6 I remember Mplayer from the old days, I might give that one a try.
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     @ryo @Lumeinshin @PhenomX6 I'm assuming that it's a new issue, because it doesn't happen on my Core2Duo. But I use OpenBSD on it, and that's not an updooter system, so it's not the latest version of mpv, with all the latest bugs. Also, I assume that the mitigations in OpenBSD would probably kill it anyway. The system is just known for not running broken shit and making it crash immediately.
     "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!! I'M GONNA UPDOOOOOOOOOOTT!!!"
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     ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Oct-2022 09:08:41 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??

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     @TerminalAutism @Lumeinshin @ryo I'm running OpenBSD on the SPARC I'm trying to make a Pleroma server and I'm waiting for a while for GCC to build.
     
     This is just making me want to get a T4-1 on eBay more
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     Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Oct-2022 09:08:41 JST Terminal Autism

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     @PhenomX6 @Lumeinshin @ryo "I'm running OpenBSD on the SPARC"
     Seems like a truly gigabased setup. I considered a SPARC system before, and it doesn't seem to be quite as expensive as I thought, looking at eBay prices now. Expensive, but still somewhat comparable in price to a Librebooted ASUS KCMA D8 Workstation. Also much cheaper than new POWER9 hardware from Raptor.
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     @TerminalAutism @Lumeinshin @ryo Or even Power8, and POWER7 Linux support is jank as shit because it's in the weird void of "PPC and IBM" and "big endian" where the only support for that is mostly for Macs.
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     Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Oct-2022 09:15:41 JST Terminal Autism

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     @PhenomX6 @Lumeinshin @ryo I have been wanting to move away from x86 for years, so I wondered about that, but even the used POWER8 hardware that I saw was way too expensive. I even considered one of the old Apple desktops, but anything Apple is guaranteed to be overpriced. Like, it has to be affordable to an extent that it's actually worth buying, or I might as well just stick with a Librebooted ThinkPad and hope that a viable RISC-V system comes out and doesn't cost too much.
     
     I will probably never make enough money for buying a POWER9 to be really worth it. I can buy so many things for that amount of money, it's ridiculous, Even the cheapest one is 5000 dollars, more expensive than a car. I don't know used car prices, but I can probably get a nice early 90s Toyota Corolla (I think cars only had computers added to them around 1994) for less than that. Not a small amount of money. It may actually be enough money to buy everything that I want in the world other than a car and a house or land or weapons. Or a least a big percentage of that.
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     Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Oct-2022 09:58:15 JST Terminal Autism

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     @ryo @PhenomX6 The best thing about it is that it has been abandoned, so it will never be updated. If there is one thing that hasn't changed since I abandoned Windows, it's my hate for updates. Though I actually do it on other systems, so it feels more annoying, even though I can choose when to do it. On Windows, the first thing that I did after installing it was disabling all updates. "BUT MUH SECURITY" is an invalid argument against that because Windows is not secure no matter what, so who cares? I'm glad that I never used Windows 8 and 10, though, because those won't take no for an answer.
     https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sxXs0Yy5-0Y
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Oct-2022 09:59:50 JST 寮

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     @TerminalAutism @PhenomX6 WinDOS is insecure by design, updates on all proprietary soystems are designed to make them less secure and then destroy the hardware they're running on.
     It's quite a different story with Linux and BSD, as most of the updates are not related to the system anyway.
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     @ryo @TerminalAutism Linux/FOSS project issues tend to be from different things and affect older platforms harder. Namely; bitrot, or a fancy ass word to describe changes to things that break older hardware/OSes (or in the case of sprawling projects like MAME, obscure drivers) and nobody notices because nobody uses them. Then when you file a bug report they want the exact commit that broke it since even they don't know what the fuck their own code does.
     
     Or GCC breaking on a dead OS that nobody uses except 4 nerds.
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     ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Oct-2022 13:49:47 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??

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     @TerminalAutism @Lumeinshin @ryo Apple hardware in the USA is usually dirt cheap PPC wise, or was. Lower end G5s don't cost that much ($100-150) but working Quad G5s and liquid cooled models cost more because the LCS literally destroyed the machine if it's not rebuilt. They're the cheapest PPC64 machine around but also big endian only and only the dual core/quad models have PCIe. The Raptor Blackbirds used to be cheaper but a single quad core CPU and board bundle is $2800.
     
     Unfortunately with the shit economy and high gas prices used car prices went up, unless it's someone dumping their SUV on the used market but the cheapest Power9 full systems are more than that price still. I'm not joking, you can find a work van or Tahoe for less than a Corolla right now in my area.
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     Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Oct-2022 13:50:28 JST Terminal Autism

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     @PhenomX6 @Lumeinshin @ryo So they really did raise the prices and it wasn't just bad memory like I assumed. I think it wasn't even 4000 dollars before and now it's 5000. Also, I was thinking that maybe high gas prices would get car prices to stabilize or go down, but I guess not. But it makes sense in America, if people are getting rid of their gigantic cars and looking for smaller ones. If vans are cheaper, that could be a good investment for later, even if it's just homelessness insurance. I wonder how RV and truck costs were affected. Probably either the same or higher, kinda hard to imagine anything being cheaper at this point.
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     ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Oct-2022 20:44:13 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??

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     @TerminalAutism @Lumeinshin @ryo older trucks are still like 2-4k unless it's diesel. Pre dpf diesel trucks hold value hard
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Oct-2022 21:00:28 JST 寮

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     @PhenomX6 @TerminalAutism Maintaining stuff for old hardware that only 1 or 2 people still use isn't worth the effort, I know that.
     However, old ThinkPads are generally still popular among the Linux and FOSS fanatics (perhaps started by Luke Smith, perhaps not, but even without him old ThinkPads woud still be incredibly popular).
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     Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-2022 10:43:15 JST Terminal Autism

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     @ryo @PhenomX6 Don't remind me that I have a laptop of the same line as the one that a yootoober has. EEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! GROSS!! If it wasn't for Libreboot, I would use something else just to avoid the shame of that. Maybe I should paint it and put waifu stickers on it. Nobody tell Luke that there are other laptops with trackpoints out there that have competed with ThinkPads in the past ( Example: https://wikiless.org/media/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/Acer_docking_station.jpg ), or he will get one and then so will all the Redditors, and those too will be cringe forever! Fortunately, he will never ruin architectures like SPARC and POWER, only the cool kids in the cool boards know about those.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-2022 10:43:54 JST 寮

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     @TerminalAutism @PhenomX6 By POWER, do you mean POWERPC (what all the Macs used to have before Crapple switched over to IntHell)?
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-2022 11:21:49 JST 寮

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     @TerminalAutism @PhenomX6 TrackPoints, being able to repair laptops by yourself, and hell even TFT screens (not that stupid glass thing that makes you blind in the sun) were actually a very standard things to have 2 decades ago.
     Though Acer doesn't really have the reputation of building ever lasting hardware, and the keyboard in that photo looks like your average normie laptop keyboard.
     
     What makes the old ThinkPads so great is that the keyboards resemble regular keyboards much more closely.
     Of course not all the way, but it's still the 3x3 row for things like Insert, Delete, Home, End, Page Up, and Page Down instead of having them all on 1 row or spread out over the entire keyboard with some of them requiring you to use the Fn key, all the Fnumber keys are separated into groups of 4, and so on.
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     ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-2022 12:48:36 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??

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     @ryo @TerminalAutism yes power has been PPC + ppc-as since power4
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     Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-2022 12:48:37 JST Terminal Autism

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     @ryo @PhenomX6 Pretty much, it's IBM's architecture, now called OpenPOWER. It's what Raptor uses on their computers, that are the only ones that the FSF has approved other than old stuff with Libreboot.
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     Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-2022 13:29:34 JST Terminal Autism

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     @ryo @PhenomX6 I used that as an example because the picture is good and includes the dock. There are more: https://wikiless.org/wiki/Trackpoint#Naming_and_brands
     
     And I disagree on the keyboards. At least the keyboard on my ThinkPad is absolutely awful and I can barely type my password on it, and it's bad even by rubber dome standards. I have a shitty Microsoft rubber dome keyboard in my closet, from like, 15 years ago, and it's better than any laptop keyboard that I have ever used.
     
     My position is that all laptop keyboards are complete shit, and they only got worse in terms of reliability. Hell, if anything, the horrible abominations made today, that feel like shit, are still a little easier to type on even if they do hurt more. But even on the old keyboards, the rubber domes felt like shit and the keycaps were flat, not sculpted.
     
     The only exceptions are the few laptops out there that actually have mechanical keyboards. They exist, and they are generally pretty crazy. They may not have great switches (just Cherries or clones), but you can desolder them and replace them.I may build my own, though, just by building a ThinkPad into a briefcase.
     
     Of course, I'm used to the nice keyboard I built, with box switches, but even this is lenient, because my own keyboard was a compromise based on cost and taxes. The previous points are not even considering the fact that almost all keyboards are bad in the first place. Even the keyboards with the best switches ever made, like the IBM beamspring keyboards, and the Model F, and others, even they still have the problem of crappy layouts. Keyboards to this day have layouts that were invented because of the mechanical limitations of early type writers, and that do not fit the human hand and fingers.
     
     The only good keyboards that I can name at the moment are the Kinesis Advantage and the Dactyl Manuform (you build this one yourself with 3D printing, so you have to do that well for it to be good, I suppose), because they have those key wells along with the thumb clusters. That concave sculpting eliminates a lot of unnecessary finger movement, and keyboards like the Ergodox are shit because they don't have them. There's also the Maltron, which is kinda like the Kinesis, but it's not built nearly as well and I remember from my research that I just preferred the Kinesis (I don't have one yet, but I intend to get one, and maybe mod it, and it will probably be the II and not the 360, because of a review that I saw). Another one that may be exceptional is the DataHand, but it's very unusual, so it's difficult to know without trying, and it's kinda rare and fucking expensive, so to try one, I'll have to find a collector that owns one first. Here it is:
     https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IrRWTeJ0-Ow
     https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T7UajuYCIyk
     
     Of course, let's not even get into keyboard layouts. Nothing even remotely good comes with any OS by default. Qwerty is pantsu-on-head retarded, but at least it's default. Dvorak and Colemak are better, but still fucking retarded. WHY THE FUCK IS THE "A" KEY STILL IN THE SAME PLACE?! Jesus Christ, a really common letter, a vowel, under the fucking pinky. Anyway, I shouldn't rant about that, I should write a script that counts how many of each character is in my message logs, to see if it really is as retarded as it seems or if I'm just wrong. Pretty sure I'm not.
     
     Anyway, switches are also a big topic. The best switches either aren't discrete or don't work on normal PCBs, so that's a problem. I have never owned linear switches, only clicky, but I wonder what typing on the is like, because hall effect switches are the most reliable switches that you can get (totally contactless), and they can also be analog, so I really wonder what moving the cursor would be like with those.
     
     Like, maybe you could use your keyboard as a mouse much more effectively, since you could control the speed that the cursor moves. Hall effect switches use magnetic sensors to determine the distance of a magnet, and that is what actuates the switches. This can be calibrated however you want. The switches aren't soldered to the PCB, though, so you need special PCBs. Anyway, the Lisp Machine keyboards were known for using them, and actually, the Dreamcast analog thumbstick also did ( https://yewtu.be/watch?v=klhFkIsV-lE ), and was fully modular. There are no ergos that use them as far as I know, though. Oh, and there is an arcade stick that uses them too ( https://www.ultimarc.com/arcade-controls/joysticks/ultrastik-360-oval-top-clone/ ), that I would like to try because the engage distance can be changed, so that in combination with different gates could result in the most customizable design that you could possibly have, that is also absurdly reliable.
     
     I might know too much. I'm suppressing my power level here. The world is not ready for my true and final form.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-2022 13:29:34 JST 寮

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     @TerminalAutism @PhenomX6 If you want the A key to be in a different spot, you might consider giving AZERTY keyboards (those sold in Belgium and France) a try then.
     Instead of WASD they have ZQSD.
     And AZERTY keyboards are even more retarded, I mean, you have to hold shift to type numbers, because otherwise you'll get special characters if you don't.
     
     Kind of like how on Japanese keyboards you have to hold shift for the caps lock key to enable caps lock, otherwise it does absolutely nothing, so I simply remapped the caps lock key to launch the calculator in Rofi (preparing for people criticizing me for not using dmenu).
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-2022 13:33:01 JST 寮

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     @TerminalAutism @PhenomX6 "clit mouse"
     I like that name.
     Cunny mouse.
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     Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-2022 17:51:02 JST Terminal Autism

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     @ryo @PhenomX6 AZERTY is still basically QWERTY, so it's absolutely atrocious, and it doesn't even get the benefit of being the global default. And my keyboard has free firmware, so I just change the configuration in the firmware itself. Caps lock is useless, so I replace it with escape when pressed and ctrl when held.
     
     I have never used a Japanese keyboard, but typing in Japanese is a major pain in the ass. I may eventually learn how to type directly in kana, because it should go considerably faster once I learn the layout (?), but I will only do that if I switch to another layout first, because again, QWERTY is retarded, so learning Japanese QWERTY would be silly when I can learn Japanese anything else, like Colemak. Though I think a big chunk of the annoyance with typing in Japanese is having to switch between Japanese and English constantly. Once I have an ergonomic keyboard, I may map a key just for that, so I don't have to use a modifier to do it.
     
     And I have nothing against Rofi, I used it before and it's a good program and for a lot of people it may be better. But I don't really need the extra features that it has (I can do all that with scripts), so I just use dmenu patched with border, center, fuzzyhighlight, fuzzymatch, grid and gridnav. By default it's not great, though. The fuzzy matching is what really makes it good. I may end up replacing it with something better eventually, though (hell, I could just launch stuff from the terminal with an fzf script with disown and that would work well in manual tilers like stumpwm, notion, sdorfehs and ratpoison, though I could also make the terminal window be hidden). Also, Rofi has some pretty nice themes, I liked that.
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     @TerminalAutism @PhenomX6 Barely anyone types Japanese using kana input, everyone does it using romaji input instead.
     The characters on a Japanese keyboard in spots where QWERTY is found is たていすかん (shield chair feeling?).
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     Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Oct-2022 17:55:02 JST Terminal Autism

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     @ryo @PhenomX6 It's more like a hemorrhoid, because laptop keyboards are ass. I do like the TrackPoint/pointing stick, though. The only problem with it is that it's on exactly zero good keyboards. Also, a mouse wheel would be nice.
     
     I want to try a trackball, that would be nice. And if it's not, I can use it to play arcade games. Like Centipede, and Missile Command. Though I can just get an arcade trackball for that. Maybe I could use one to built my own trackball to use as a mouse, actually. Overall, I would rather avoid pointing devices, though bad programs won't let me.
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     @TerminalAutism @PhenomX6 Hold the middle button while operating the cunny mouse for scrolling.
     
     Desktop keyboards have the opposite problem; there's exactly 0 keyboards that do cunny mouse right (out of the like 2 or 3 keyboards that even have them at all), and those that do are basically ThinkPad keyboards with a USB connector, which I don't really count as desktop keyboards.
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     @TerminalAutism @ryo Thinkpad keyboards are some of the best laptop ones tbh
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     @PhenomX6 @ryo Really goes to show how bad laptop keyboards are. If I designed a laptop, it would be as thick as it had to be to accommodate a real keyboard. Building it into a briefcase is a good idea, basically turning it into a Toughbook. With a design like that, you don't need to put it in a bag to carry it, so it's more convenient as well. Would have to get creative to make it comfortable, though. Some kind of slope would be necessary to make it comfortable to use, maybe one that folds out. Maybe I'll do it one day.
     
     But as I mentioned before, I'm not a big fan of laptops and to me they were already a step in the wrong direction that moved the industry towards Satanphones, and to technology being carried around by normalfags, and people being connected to the internet at all times. If I became world dictator, I would ban wi-fi immediately. Without it, the cyber dystopia would be a lot harder to create, if not impossible.
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     @TerminalAutism @PhenomX6 I see the smartphone and tablet is an attempt to re-define the PC, but instead of a hobbyist invented work machines, they're corporated controlled consoomer toys.
     And modern laptops are slowly being pushed into that same direction too.
     I even said multiple times before that current year laptops are really just tablets without a touch screen and with a keyboard and trackpad.
     
     Desktops are still the only bit of freedom we have left, and even these are slowly going towards consoomer toyism, especially considering the M1 processors Crapple is using on the one hand, and Microshaft Pluton they're trying to force computer manufacturers to implement on the other hand.
     Let's not forget IntHell ME and AMD PSP which to this day cannot be mitigated by any other means than by buying ancient hardware or waiting for RISC-V computers to finally come out.
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     @TerminalAutism @ryo beam springs belong on 5250s imo
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     @TerminalAutism @ryo what do you think of the pc98 layout with a hardware kana key
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     @ryo @TerminalAutism you can still run your own os on laptops at least
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     @PhenomX6 @TerminalAutism Yes, though for how long until they make it so it's no longer possible?
     TPM was always meant to block not Microshaft approved operating systems out of computers in general, and it's easy to see how they're trying to do it more and more over a long period of time, and before you know it it's outright impossible (until someone figures out how to bypass it again, and Microshaft will just make it harder again).
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     @PhenomX6 @ryo I have no idea how it compares to other layouts. It all depends on character frequency and putting the most frequent characters in the positions that are the easiest to reach. But I don't even know if Japanese QWERTY is as bad as regular QWERTY. But I do know that Japanese Colemak exists, and that makes me assume that there was a need for it.
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     @TerminalAutism @PhenomX6 Key differences between Japanese QWERTY and American QWERTY are in the special characters, and the fact that Japanese ones have more keys.
     Shift + 0 in principle isn't ASSigned to anything, so it uses a tilde (~) as a placeholder, though sometimes it seems to use a backslash (\) or a pipe (|) (no dirty thoughts intended) on other OS's.
     
     The space key is smaller to make room for the 無交換, 交換, and カタカナ/ひらがな/ローマ字 keys.
     On American ones there are 2 keys between the 0 and backspace, on Japanese there are 3 keys.
     On American ones there's 3 keys between M and right shift, on Japanese there are 4 keys.
     On American ones there's 2 keys between L and enter, on Japanese ones there are 3 keys.
     
     And the only reason I know that is because I recently worked for a customer at their own office, and they all use some IdeaPad laptops that have keyboards where Japan-only keys have no gap between them and international ones.
     
     Exactly like this:
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     @ryo @PhenomX6 That's really awkward, though. The middle key is difficult to reach to begin with, and holding it for extended periods of time is just asking for trouble. Though it doesn't matter much, because again, normal keyboards are atrocious. Talking about ergonomics when you're using a typewriter form factor with QWERTY and no sculpting... it's a little bit silly. It's like talking about what shoes are more comfortable to wear when you don't even have feet.
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     @TerminalAutism @ryo the pc98 was a computer basically designed for the Japanese language to the point of having the entire Japanese font in ROM to display it faster while using little memory. The same went with other early Japanese market computers that had keyboards designed for the language.
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     @ryo @PhenomX6 I know the layouts. What I mean is that I know know whether the positions of the kana make any sense at all, or if they are pure nonsense and chaos like the rest of QWERTY.
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     @TerminalAutism @PhenomX6 As I already said, nobody inputs text in kana-mode anymore, everyone does it in romaji-mode instead.
     The only people inputting in kana-mode are smartphone users using the 10-key layout instead of the QWERTY layout.
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     @ryo @PhenomX6 Yes, I know that, and I think that's way too slow. Needing two key presses for each kana is really annoying. And that's not counting all the times that you have to hit space to convert and enter to confirm.
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     @TerminalAutism @PhenomX6 Conversion is needed either way actually.
     Otherwise you can't make kanji or even katakana.
     But actually, most of the time typing Japanese using romaji isn't too bad speed-wise, the only time when it gets frustrated is when you accidentally press the wrong character which gets it converted into undesired results, making you have to write the entire sentence again.
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     @ryo @PhenomX6 I know, but typing directly in kana would almost halve your key presses in actual typing, and it would go even faster a layout that is actually good and optimized to reduce finger movement.
     
     Anyway, I'm pretty sure I know how people type using touchscreens in Japan, it's a click and drag type of thing, right? I think that may actually be faster than doing it on a keyboard with romaji, though still less comfortable. It's kinda like the way that the DataHand ( https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T7UajuYCIyk ) works, actually, except without switches and without anything, just rubbing fingers on a screen like an idiot monkey.
     
     Oh, and I press enter to confirm after every word I type, because I have complete trust in the input method engine, and by that I mean that I completely trust it to fuck everything up, so I do everything word-by-word. I appreciate all the creative word play that the Japanese writing system allows for, that can't be done in other languages, but holy shit, is it bad for typing. And writing too gets very complicated, though people almost never do it anymore.
     
     WHY?!
     https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2icA1VaYg80
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     @TerminalAutism @ryo @PhenomX6 Just buy the pic related.
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     @ryo @TerminalAutism fun fact the secure boot exploit for the surface rt came from that autist (who leaked the Nintendo giga leak) leaking the key before he got vanned
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     @yasu @PhenomX6 @ryo I have seen that one. Even has foot pedals, which is very based. Imagine the amount of movement necessary to type on that, though.
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