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   CrunkLord420 (crunklord420@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 06:41:50 JST CrunkLord420
   AI will never become an autonomous threat to humanity because a python dependency would break before it could accomplish anything.
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     istván (istvan@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 21:16:38 JST istván

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     @Saxophone3784 @crunklord420 @lonelyowl @Zerglingman "Glad I could help."

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     istván (istvan@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 21:16:41 JST istván

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     @Zerglingman @Saxophone3784 @crunklord420 @lonelyowl The last 20 years of computers have really born out my theory than anything being designed by more than ten people turns to utter dog shit.

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     32784 (saxophone3784@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 21:16:41 JST 32784

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     @istvan @Zerglingman @crunklord420 @lonelyowl Unironically this. I recently found a complex software written by a single schizo. I don't remember when was the last time i enjoyed working with a software this much. In this cases you feel the idea behind the software and you see that the person cared.
     In everything i use today i sense that no one cared. They just wrote shit code and shipped, because the soylent truck was outside and they couldn't waste more time coding.
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     istván (istvan@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 21:16:43 JST istván

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     @Saxophone3784 @crunklord420 @lonelyowl @Zerglingman If you think this is bad, you should look at the disaster of open source sound or the layers of soy that have been piled onto the once dead simple rc.d.

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     Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 21:16:43 JST Machismo

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     @istvan @lonelyowl @crunklord420 @Saxophone3784 It has a name and a file list: pulseaudio.
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     Ruru! 🦉 (lonelyowl@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 21:16:44 JST Ruru! 🦉

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     @Zerglingman @Saxophone3784 @crunklord420
     
     Or a container, maybe? Because conda enviroments contain not only python packages and interpreter, but also half of the system, their own version of libc, gcc, cuda and other stuff. MAYBE it was used before docker became a thing for the same purposes 🤷♀️
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     32784 (saxophone3784@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 21:16:44 JST 32784

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     @lonelyowl @crunklord420 @Zerglingman yeah but this is the problem.
     You could just go ahead and say: "Look, in order to do X, you need a container. Container is this thing that contains A,B and C in order to do D".
     Nowhere is this explained. I did not even know that conda installs libc and gcc. Like holy shit, those are such basic and simple concepts, instead it is obfuscated by 1000 lines of soycode.
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     @Zerglingman @Saxophone3784 @crunklord420
     
     > what the fuck conda is
     
     Something like alternative enviroment and package manager. The deep learning apps actively use this thing. I will not pretend i fully understand what is this and why it was created, but my quick acquaintance with it made me think it is horrible. I will never again install it outside of docker because it tend to fuck up outside system 😭
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     Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 21:16:45 JST Machismo

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     @lonelyowl @crunklord420 @Saxophone3784 Sounds like motherfuckers need package management.
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     Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 21:16:47 JST Machismo

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     @Saxophone3784 @crunklord420 I am a python developer and I don't even know what the fuck conda is.
     I install everything via system package manager, or PKGBUILD. Motherfuckers need package management.
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     Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 21:16:48 JST Machismo

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     @crunklord420 The problem is their package management is beyond shit-tier.
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     32784 (saxophone3784@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 21:16:48 JST 32784

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     @Zerglingman @crunklord420 Last week this topic came by and i actually went and asked python "developers" why do they have shit like Conda. It is genuinely like talking to NPCs who just spew pre-made sentences. None of it makes sense, it is just badly thought out instruments made sure that any mentally handicapped person can write a code that runs. The consequences of making coding accessible to everyone has been a disaster for human race.
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     CrunkLord420 (crunklord420@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 21:16:49 JST CrunkLord420

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     @Zerglingman actually the problem is they do have package management.
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     Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 21:16:50 JST Machismo

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     @crunklord420 Motherfuckers need package management.