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Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 19:42:54 JST Sexy Moon Even though I don't NEED another security key (I already have one more than I actually use) I think I am gonna finally buy a NitroKey and try it out because I want to know if it's better. -
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Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 19:50:43 JST Sexy Moon @MK2boogaloo I actually have a FSFE OpenPGP USB device (two in fact) where the hardware and software are fully free but they can only do PGP not FIDO2, OTP etc.
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Avatar of Chaos (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 19:50:45 JST Avatar of Chaos @Moon why are you using proprietary key, Moon? -
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Avatar of Chaos (mk2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 19:55:49 JST Avatar of Chaos @Moon that's the problem here Moon, it's not FSF certified. There's no telling what's going to happen to your baby server. Sexy Moon likes this. -
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Sheriff CJ (The Impostor)?? (colonelj@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 23:00:55 JST Sheriff CJ (The Impostor)?? @Moon if a fedi admin wanted to plant a tracking cookie into my browser to spy on me, how would they actually accomplish this? mia likes this. -
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(mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 23:00:55 JST @colonelj @Moon As easy as adding a Set-Cookie header in nginx and then adding a cookie header to logs. i think most modern browsers restrict third-party cookies, so it'll work only when you visit the site directly. mia likes this. -
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Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 23:45:13 JST Sexy Moon @colonelj A fedi admin could not plant a tracker on their instance that could track you across other websites, unless they also controlled those other websites.
A site admin can only read the cookies of sites they control.
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feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Sunday, 05-Nov-2023 23:52:05 JST feld @Moon @MK2boogaloo last I looked the Nitrokeys didn't support smartcard -
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Parker Banks (parker@pl.psion.co)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 00:31:33 JST Parker Banks @Moon @colonelj I thought something similar happened to chudbere/clairebere though. -
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Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 00:31:33 JST Sexy Moon @parker @colonelj I thought they got tricked into downloading a Minecraft server plugin with malware in it. -
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Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 00:34:53 JST Sexy Moon @feld @MK2boogaloo the only applet I would install on a smartcard would be the pgp applet anyway feld likes this. -
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Parker Banks (parker@pl.psion.co)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 01:15:36 JST Parker Banks @Moon @feld @MK2boogaloo Nah this was before that ever happened. Something about checking what sites she visited. I can't remember though, so likely have some details fuzzy. -
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Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 01:15:36 JST Sexy Moon @parker @feld @MK2boogaloo I will say that it is not supposed to be possible. However there have been side-channel attacks where for example, you could put a tracker on your site that makes requests to other sites. the javascript can't read the response but you can time the request somehow, and based on the timing you can determine if it was probably in the user's browser cache already and that tells you they had been to that site before. I don't know if that is still possible but it had been done in the past. -
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feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 02:06:28 JST feld @Moon @MK2boogaloo that's the one I need too Sexy Moon likes this. -
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(mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 04:48:40 JST @PonyPanda @colonelj @Moon Never used it, can't say. I'm using a combination of uBlock+uMatrix, but the latter definely has a learning curve. -
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PonyPanda (ponypanda@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 04:48:41 JST PonyPanda @mint @colonelj @Moon is Privacy Badger actually any good? -
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PonyPanda (ponypanda@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 04:50:43 JST PonyPanda @mint @Moon @colonelj I got uBlock. likes this. -
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Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 10:07:56 JST Sexy Moon I don’t know how this would work tbh mia likes this. -
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Sheriff CJ (The Impostor)?? (colonelj@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 10:07:57 JST Sheriff CJ (The Impostor)?? @Moon i'm just going by what they said :cirnoShrug: maybe they were full of shit the whole time, but it is concerning if it's truly that easy to fedi admins to track their users.
<2022-06-27T02:58:23.000Z> [ADMIN 1]: im going to set up a trap in that poast's webserver will log all traffic by that IP and track him around, then we can paint a picture of where he went and what he was trying to do
<2022-06-27T02:58:47.000Z> [ADMIN 1]: but we are going to watch it for a few weeks. he will slip up with referral sites or other cookies that can be tracked and i will find them
<2022-06-27T02:59:00.000Z> [ADMIN 1]: [ADMIN 2] is more autistic about this stuff then i am so i expect results from at least one of us
<2023-02-12T09:19:45.000Z> [ADMIN 1]: this person had a very specific way of searching for shit which made it super easy to find her
<2023-02-12T09:20:13.000Z> [ADMIN 1]: so she moved to another instance -- [NODE 2] -- whos' admin im great friends with and we often work toghether on shit, like this -- which continued tracking her
<2023-02-12T09:20:51.000Z> [ADMIN 1]: we planted a tracking cookie that recorded her steps after leaving poast until she came back to poast and she would frequently namesearch herself on twitter and come back to poast. it was really sadmia likes this. -
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Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 10:56:02 JST Sexy Moon @colonelj @marine @ehhh you can't force the browser to do this. -
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Sheriff CJ (The Impostor)?? (colonelj@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 10:56:03 JST Sheriff CJ (The Impostor)?? @ehhh @Moon @marine (particularly if it's a pleroma issue, as it should be patched) -
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Sheriff CJ (The Impostor)?? (colonelj@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 10:56:04 JST Sheriff CJ (The Impostor)?? @ehhh @marine @Moon I've never specifically asked how an admin would go about tracking a user through tracking cookies. even moon is perplexed, or appears to be, at how one could accomplish this. it's a pretty big deal. -
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The Problem :verified_pink: (marine@breastmilk.club)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 10:56:05 JST The Problem :verified_pink: @ehhh @colonelj @Moon CJ has been asking this same question, in different ways, since before i left. It’s intended to start drama if Moon’s dumb enough to answer it a certain way.
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cyberpunklord420 (ehhh@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 10:56:05 JST cyberpunklord420 @colonelj Really, dude?
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cyberpunklord420 (ehhh@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 10:56:06 JST cyberpunklord420 I think it's normal for people novice to the technical part of security to ask questions like these (unless you're saying that @colonelj has been asking the same question over and over to people for a different reason.)
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The Problem :verified_pink: (marine@breastmilk.club)'s status on Monday, 06-Nov-2023 10:56:07 JST The Problem :verified_pink:
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