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   Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺 (ned@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 14:37:48 JST Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺

   When it comes to ancient aliens, Atlantis, ancient technology stuff. This sort of thing is pretty convincing evidence to me. No speculation about astrology or bullshit like that. Just a physical object and the objective measurements of that object. Manufactured to tolerances that we are barely capable of today, if at all. It's the bit between the handles that really blows my mind. That can't be turned on a lathe. So was the rest of it not turned on a lathe either?

   https://youtu.be/QzFMDS6dkWU?si=pdIs_UBRXd9v-hhR

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     Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺 (ned@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 14:48:56 JST Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺

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     @fuknukl Wha? No. What I am referring to is when people suggest things like the pyramids are arranged in the positions of Orion. Or that drawings on the pillars at Gobekli Tepe represent the position of constellations in the sky at a particular date. Those sorts of arguments, while interesting, are just weak speculation. And are only useful for spinning up a narrative.

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     Wondercrisp (wondercrisp@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 18:06:59 JST Wondercrisp

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     @ned very interesting, thanks!

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     Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au (philcolbourn@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 21:34:21 JST Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au

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     @ned aliens! where? they left some machined granite!

     humans made these. how? idk

     my faith limits such possibilities, but here are 2.

     1. pre-flood.1600 years of genius's making stuff. but how did these survive? did noah carry them? did they survive underground and Egyptians found it?

     2. post-flood. humans still smart. made precision machines - perhaps in metal. metal since corroded or recycled. perhaps knowledge lost after Babel?

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     Sir Funk ?? (sophistifunk@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 22:00:36 JST Sir Funk ??

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     • Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au

     @philcolbourn @ned LOL pass that shit.

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     Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au (philcolbourn@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 22:00:37 JST Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au

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     @ned how many years did it take for us to develop our knowledge and machines? 500? 1000? 1500? we know calendar machines existed bc: Antikythera mechanism.

     i think it's plausible that advanced knowledge and machines have been developed and lost several times.

     these granite vases and boxes are evidence.

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     Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au (philcolbourn@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 22:28:20 JST Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au

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     @ned bit between handles can be turned with a slow rotating lathe and a rotating cutting bit - i don't know if it was done that way, but it is no less possible than machining rest of vase.

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     Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺 (ned@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 22:28:42 JST Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺

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     • Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au

     @philcolbourn the antikythera mechanism is not that complicated. Devices like that were described in contemporary literature. But it's difficult to overstate just how difficult these vases would be to make. Some of them are 2mm thick. They have geometry that requires computer assisted design to come even close.

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     Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺 (ned@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 22:31:39 JST Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺

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     • Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au

     @philcolbourn rotating cutting bit make sense. But heres the kicker. How do you get the opposite side of the vase to have the exact same curve if the whole vase isn't rotating?

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     Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au (philcolbourn@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 22:33:19 JST Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au

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     @ned perhaps a different logic...

     if an alien can make it, why not a human?

     are physics laws any different?
     is math any different?
     are materials any different?

     so why does it require an alien technology?

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     Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au (philcolbourn@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 22:35:00 JST Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au

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     @Sophistifunk @ned

     you are not normally shy to comment... bout of sars2.7?

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     Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au (philcolbourn@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 22:41:32 JST Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au

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     @ned on R(n) formula, it may be true. but does it matter?

     it just selecting radius for guiding cutter.

     i also don't see why it isn't simplified... like they want it to look complex...

     R(n) = (√6/2)^n = (3/2)^(n/2) = 1.5^(n/2)

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     Sir Funk ?? (sophistifunk@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 22:46:40 JST Sir Funk ??

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     • Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au

     @ned @philcolbourn no they don’t.

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     Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au (philcolbourn@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 22:56:02 JST Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au

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     @ned granite piece is in slow rotating head.

     while it rotates, a spinning tool can follow a pattern, parallel to axis of piece to cut all profiles.

     for handles, spinning tool follows a head synchronized program to step in and step out for handles.

     slow rotating head means spinning tool has time to step and settle.

     it's like a milling machine attached to a lathe to permit rotation of piece. piece doesn't need to rotate fast.

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     Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au (philcolbourn@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 23:03:12 JST Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au

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     @ned i think polishing is a problem too. manual polishing can't yield that level of precision. while piece was machined and machine polished

     probably without being removed from machine

     did they have chemicals that soften granite?

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     Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺 (ned@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Saturday, 04-Nov-2023 05:05:39 JST Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺

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     • Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au

     @philcolbourn I'm not actually advocating the alien angle. That just what people associate it with. 100% it's possible for humans. It's not impossible, just impressive. 10,000 years ago people were just as smart as we are now. There is some evidence to suggest they were smarter.

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     Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺 (ned@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Saturday, 04-Nov-2023 05:08:26 JST Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺

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     • Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au

     @philcolbourn what you are describing as a machine would be unbelievable just 100 years ago.

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     Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au (philcolbourn@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Saturday, 04-Nov-2023 07:02:13 JST Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au

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     @ned
     smarter & more knowledgeable than we wish to admit

     surely today, we are smartest most evolved - we have science!

     my thinking began to change when i read that Romans performed cataract surgery 2000 ya

     we know people all over world could cut rocks with high precision. & using small portable machines! eg barabar caves in India

     i also wonder about medicines & processing of poisonous food so that it can be eaten

     what knowledge of plants have we lost & we are left with tradition and process

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     Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au (philcolbourn@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Saturday, 04-Nov-2023 07:14:08 JST Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au

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     @ned
     yep. maybe 200 ya

     but we have evidence! we know humanity has lost knowledge and technique

     https://www.turningtools.co.uk.wgo.ca/history2/history-turning2.html

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     Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺 (ned@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Saturday, 04-Nov-2023 07:39:11 JST Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺

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     @philcolbourn cataract surgery? Seriously?!

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     Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au (philcolbourn@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Saturday, 04-Nov-2023 08:59:05 JST Brother Phil 🇦🇺 au

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     @ned yes. story i like (probably not true) is that archeologists found metal tools but could not work out what they were for.

     these were displayed in a museum

     one day, an eye surgeon looked through museum and noted that these tools look just like his cataract surgical instruments!

     texts have been found that describe process.

     WARNING: live surgical procedures

     https://youtu.be/dFjeM98kS10?feature=shared