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   Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 04:01:58 JST Evan Prodromou

   Everyone has a right to live.

   Everyone has a right to live in their homeland.

   Everyone has a right to full equality wherever they live.

   These should be our starting points.

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 04:33:37 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Dave Neary

     @dneary actually, I don't run into trouble with that at all.

     But I changed it to "home" to make it clearer.

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     Dave Neary (dneary@mathstodon.xyz)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 04:33:39 JST Dave Neary

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     @evan I think you run into trouble with the second of these - "my homeland" is subjective, and open to arguments about who got their first, last, for the longest...

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 04:51:32 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • Dave Neary

     @dneary I think you might be operating under the mistaken belief that this is a topic I am interested in having an intellectual debate about.

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     Dave Neary (dneary@mathstodon.xyz)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 04:51:33 JST Dave Neary

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     @evan I was thinking of West Bank settlers living on land previously inhabited by displaced Palestinians. Whose homeland is that? I appreciate the update/clarification!

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     Mike Edey (mce@cosocial.ca)'s status on Friday, 03-Nov-2023 05:05:22 JST Mike Edey

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     @evan also:

     No one has a right to commit war crimes

     Human rights trump head-of-state priorities

     Nation states have many responsibilities - inside and outside of their borders

     And a people are not their government which is why collective punishment is a war crime. It is not bad, it is a responsibility to hold one’s government to account. Where you can’t be self governed it is incumbent upon nation states to uphold their responsibilities to you