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   Kit Rhett Aultman (roadriverrail@signs.codes)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 04:58:17 JST Kit Rhett Aultman

   • Terra: Chaos Lesbian
   • Lisa Melton

   @tattie @lisamelton @Terra It's not a stupid question. There are a number of valences...think of a parliament with a coalition in the majority and minority. The "no HRT" coalition is in majority by a somewhat slight amount, and the strongest point they make is "No part of us, pro or anti HRT, wants breasts." And that's very true. There are other concerns related to my fitness, to the strain I'll place on my partners, etc. 1/2

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     Kit Rhett Aultman (roadriverrail@signs.codes)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 05:01:21 JST Kit Rhett Aultman

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     • Terra: Chaos Lesbian
     • Lisa Melton

     @tattie @lisamelton @Terra Basically, if there was ala carte HRT where I could get the hips, the skin, the slowed body hair growth, the change in smell (though my scent is very mild), without threatening my fitness or sexual function and without developing breasts, things might be different. But my body as it is is already sufficient, and I'm sure after I'm farther along in hair removal, I'll find the "pro HRT" camp feels a little less strident. 2/2

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     Kit Rhett Aultman (roadriverrail@signs.codes)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 05:17:58 JST Kit Rhett Aultman

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     • Lisa Melton

     @Terra @tattie @lisamelton That's amusing to me because you're constantly posting about your boobs not being big enough. I'm serious when I say that my breasts are already as big as I want them to be.

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     Terra: Chaos Lesbian (terra@chaosfem.tw)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 05:18:00 JST Terra: Chaos Lesbian

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     • Lisa Melton

     @roadriverrail This literally copies a tweet I posted in Twitter when I first came out. Same list. Wild. God I'm still mad about the hips thing.

     @tattie @lisamelton

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     Kit Rhett Aultman (roadriverrail@signs.codes)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 05:31:19 JST Kit Rhett Aultman

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     • Terra: Chaos Lesbian
     • Lisa Melton

     @Terra @tattie @lisamelton I kinda figured that's what the story was. I tell people all the time that the act of being in transition alone will change your sense of desires/goals, and of course changing body chemistry will amplify that, too.

     For me, though, I've had 20 years of thinking about it, and given the choice between two mixed bags, this is the right one for me. There's no "need"; just a lot of "wouldn't it be nice".

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     Terra: Chaos Lesbian (terra@chaosfem.tw)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 05:31:20 JST Terra: Chaos Lesbian

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     • Lisa Melton

     @roadriverrail Hips: That they don't grow the way my boobs seem to. I just want hips (and my ass) to pop out, but I'll probably never have them.

     I didn't want boob changes at all and researched binders, hiding clothing, and actually filled out insurance pre-authorization for mastectomy just in case they started growing. 100% against having boobs. Actually put off starting HRT for a bit because of that. But the mental changes were so necessary I finally started.

     Then at about 3-4 months, something shifted in my brain and I was like "Oh these started growing, and I never ever want them to stop. In fact, I want them to be enormous." Not sure if the E removed a block or actually changed my relationship with my body, but yeah, total shift.

     @tattie @lisamelton

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     Kit Rhett Aultman (roadriverrail@signs.codes)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 05:35:45 JST Kit Rhett Aultman

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     • Lisa Melton

     @lisamelton @Terra @tattie And this culturally tracks. It's why you hear terms like "boob juice" and "titty skittles".

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     Lisa Melton (lisamelton@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 05:35:47 JST Lisa Melton

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     • Terra: Chaos Lesbian

     @Terra @roadriverrail @tattie At my first HRT consult, my doctor asked me what outcome I most wanted from the process.

     I answered, "Boobs."

     You know, just in case you were wondering about my priorities. 🤣

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     Kit Rhett Aultman (roadriverrail@signs.codes)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 06:08:58 JST Kit Rhett Aultman

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     • Terra: Chaos Lesbian
     • Michaela Sue
     • Lisa Melton

     @beige_alert @lisamelton @Terra @tattie You know, now that you say it, it does seem like boobs end up being a massive part of the conversation either way.

     The other thing is that I...think I might have some already? I had some breast tissue activation in puberty, like with pain and swolen glands and stuff. My pads mostly round out what I already have.

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     Michaela Sue (beige_alert@universeodon.com)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 06:08:59 JST Michaela Sue

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     • Terra: Chaos Lesbian
     • Lisa Melton

     @roadriverrail @lisamelton @Terra @tattie I spent years amongst the tumblr enbies and it often felt like they only thing anyone else wanted to talk about was binders. I, assigned male, wanted breasts... When I found trans women (on twitter) they seemed to mostly talk about growing breasts on HRT, so at least that's a consistent focus of attention from *everyone!*

     But yeah my doctor asked what I hoped for from HRT and my first two things were saying I wanted to find out what sort of mental/emotional effects I'd get, and then pointing to my chest (enhanced by padding in my bra) and saying it would be cool if these were real 🤣