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   Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 02:42:41 JST Sexy Moon
   > The Department of Commerce will develop guidance for content authentication and watermarking to clearly label AI-generated content. Federal agencies will use these tools to make it easy for Americans to know that the communications they receive from their government are authentic—and set an example for the private sector and governments around the world.
   
   USE CRYPTOGRAPHIC SIGNING YOU DUMB FUCKS YOU DON'T NEED "AI" FOR THIS
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 02:44:00 JST iced depresso

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     @Moon > we're going to use AI as the excuse for our next rollout of fascism
     literally all i heard in this post
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 02:46:31 JST iced depresso

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     @Moon i already thought about the logistics that go in to trying to sign every frame that comes out of a recording device. it would be quite stupid to have to give everything capable of any kind of signal capture some ECC chip to just sit there and sign frames of audio or video as it writes them to disk. then you get in to destructive transforms like compression or editing a video. what for that? does the DAW and NLE have to do some blake tree hashing scheme where it attaches a crypto stream to the edit to attribute that? does nuke have to legally mark that it combined 3 different video streams when you did a composite?
     
     or is it just a more limited thing like "oh well we'll just do it for certain 'evidence' cameras and we'll assume anything heavily edited is known to be faulty"
     
     on top of all that, i'm sure the supply chain would be clowned and the NSA/CIA/Mossad/et all would find a way to cheat it anyway :blobcatdunno:
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 02:47:11 JST feld

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     @Moon
     
     Leica: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/leicas-9125-camera-automatically-stores-authenticity-proving-metadata/
     
     Sony: https://www.sony.eu/presscentre/sony-unlocks-in-camera-forgery-proof-technology
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 02:47:52 JST feld

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     @Moon Still not convinced that the metadata is tamper proof and you can't make people think there's a legit signature when there's not. Lots of problems with this concept.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 02:54:51 JST Sexy Moon

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     @icedquinn you break the video up into chunks and sign the chunks.
     
     this obviously doesn't work with edited video but if one were serious, you could add a metadata stream that links timestamps with a signature fingerprint so that a human could do a visual inspection to see if a video plausibly is the same after resampling.
     
     there's no infrastructure for this at all and I don't believe for a second that the white house is going to start making all their videos cryptographically signed and the raw video available on bittorrent or something. it's just not going to happen. it would be cool if it did.
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     ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 02:57:38 JST ロミンちゃん

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     @Moon cryptography is for nerds and ponzi scam artists.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 02:59:39 JST iced depresso

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     @Moon sure but you still get trust and supply chain issues. someone has to make the chip that holds the ECC keys.
     
     i think trying to stop AI is nonsense though so whatever :blobcatbean:
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 03:01:06 JST Sexy Moon

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     @icedquinn as I mentioned in a different post, the federal government actually already has the trusted infrastructure for signing and verifying stuff, the army and dod use it.
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     nobullyplz :antibully: (nobullyplz@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 03:30:41 JST nobullyplz :antibully:

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     @Moon :thinksphere:
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     progo in NYC (progo@boop.city)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 03:39:52 JST progo in NYC

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     @Moon I kept saying this in my head through the whole QAnon operation. Who the fuck are these people? How do I know that some message came from the same group of people as 2 years ago? That was probably just a dumb pysop, anyway.

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     :archlinux: (lewdthewides@hidamari.apartments)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 11:43:03 JST :archlinux:

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     @Moon the whitehouse can sign their shit however they want....I still won't believe them :gigachad:
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 12:27:16 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @feld @Moon This one feels rather scary though, metadata kills.
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     Pleroma-tan (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 12:36:38 JST Pleroma-tan

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     @nobullyplz @Moon you should go see a doctor your eyes are really fucked up
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     Kirino Kousaka (kirino@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 12:40:07 JST Kirino Kousaka

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     eyes are usually one eye width apart.

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