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   dexternemrod (dexternemrod@troet.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 01:21:01 JST dexternemrod

   • European Commission
   • Matti Järvinen
   • Eelco Mulder :mastodon:
   • Truls

   @nemeciii

   @truls46 @voorstad @EU_Commission

   I'm more team anti-censorship, so no idea if/how they could block this. 😊

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     Truls (truls46@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 01:20:57 JST Truls

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     • European Commission
     • Draken BlackKnight

     @drakenblackknight
     The mass surveillance (aka "chat control") is being advertised with the pretense to fight child abuse. Matti's point is that those criminals can easily avoid the chat control by self hosting secure messengers. So the whole thing is stupid.

     It seems the @EU_Commission prefers to listen to lobbyist and take the money rather then listen to the experts to understand that the whole thing won't prevent any crime, but violates human rights.

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     Matti Järvinen (nemeciii@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 01:20:59 JST Matti Järvinen

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     • European Commission
     • Draken BlackKnight
     • Eelco Mulder :mastodon:
     • Truls

     @drakenblackknight @dexternemrod @truls46 @voorstad @EU_Commission and yet you can use self hosted Matrix with a self hosted Element.io website.

     There's literally not even a slightest chance to block organized crime from having E2EE discussions so why even bother to try.

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     Draken BlackKnight (drakenblackknight@mastodon.online)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 01:20:59 JST Draken BlackKnight

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     • European Commission
     • Matti Järvinen
     • Eelco Mulder :mastodon:
     • Truls

     @nemeciii @dexternemrod @truls46 @voorstad @EU_Commission
     Who the fuck mentioned anything about crime?

     Brendan Jones repeated this.
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     Draken BlackKnight (drakenblackknight@mastodon.online)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 01:21:00 JST Draken BlackKnight

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     • European Commission
     • Matti Järvinen
     • Eelco Mulder :mastodon:
     • Truls

     @dexternemrod @nemeciii @truls46 @voorstad @EU_Commission
     It could be blocked in the official apps, but there are unofficial forks available in F-Droid (like Molly).