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Daily reminder that the line for what effectively is/isn't a civilian evaporated when we gave everyone the vote. Even if you restrict men who could be drafted you still have credible claims that women/children are non-targets on the basis that they have no legitimate participation in political violence.
Because the franchise expanded over time, the trend over time is to view the entire polity as an objectively solitary block of political violence. This trend includes children. The telos of mass conscription is ultimately all wars being eliminationism and genocide.
Non-limited warfare begets insurgency, which in turn creates a system wherein there exist no illegitimate targets.
The cost of "freedom" is being a political actor and therefore a valid military target, democracy boosters won't explain this to you.
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@mkultra and you won't be able to excuse shit when your country claims to be democratic even if in practice it isn't
for some reason that kinda blatant lying works
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Implicit to the case that non-levied civilians are innocent in conflict is the idea that they are non-party to what their leaders do and are not voluntarily levied, IE they are legitimate targets when participating, but do not actively participate otherwise.
Democracy obviously does away with this premise, everyone "consents" to the actions of the sovereign through participation, ergo everyone is a legit target.
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@mkultra a hohol eating my body after i get killed for being russian (i am a valid target because my country calls itself a democracy even though the elections are just a formality) despite me never voting ever
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@lina
libtards explaining that iranians running them over with a bmp isn't ok despite voooting for biden to feel good:
https://youtu.be/vM6eO0VuNFs?si=HSw1s8vvUDJvHMwN
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@mkultra it's a gif and chechens don't look like that
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@lina
Why'd you post a video of a chechen doing what you described to a ukrainian?
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@lina @mkultra don't blame me for my politicians' actions! YOU ARE TO BLAME FOR PUTIN THO
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@rdr @mkultra yea exactly, i see hohols unironically kvetch that russians aren't protesting or overthrowing putin
like no shit, we live in a stable country with a resemblance of a bright future ahead of us, nobody's gonna throw his life away doing something like that
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@mkultra @rdr they only talk big like that cuz they have an illusion of security, the moment shit turns against them they will cry that they will cover their asses up and claim that they're not responsible at all despite just a week ago calling for bloodshed of innocent people
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@lina @rdr
The amount of "all people are complicit" talk natotards get up to is why I made this post.
Like nigga this sword cuts both ways and as an american civilian I don't really think its good, but I can steelman the case and I recognize its inherent validity, hence my concern over warfare.
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@rdr @lina
that's the funny thing, effectively terrorism is a form of negotiation.
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@mkultra @rdr it is, but it's a kind of negotiation you would be at a loss in if you try to operate on their terms
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@mkultra @lina we don't negotiate with terrorist
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@lina @rdr
Niggas could really do to read an intro to international relations textbook chapter on terrorism.
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@mkultra @rdr more often than not you'll be ceding ground because most of the time it's a response to people being pushed around by powerful scum
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@lina @rdr
yes and no.
It depends on if you can determine what exactly they want and how cohesive they are.
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