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    NoBeret :verified: Fun Killer (noberet@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 20-Oct-2023 10:18:54 JST NoBeret :verified: Fun Killer NoBeret :verified: Fun Killer

    Windows Longhorn and the Worst Code I've Ever Seen: Dave Cutler https://youtu.be/vxmZPMg7vIs?si=LSNmXtDuciIy68k8

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      Dave Cutler recounts the story of Windows Longhorn, plus the worst code he's seen.For the full interview available October 21, 2023, make sure you're subscri...
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      Sir Funk ?? (sophistifunk@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 20-Oct-2023 10:18:52 JST Sir Funk ?? Sir Funk ??
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      @mhjohnson @NoBeret wtf is Jovial? Never heard of it and I'm old AF.

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      Mark :verified: (mhjohnson@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 20-Oct-2023 10:18:53 JST Mark :verified: Mark :verified:
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      @NoBeret
      The worst code I ever saw (twice!) was a symbol table built as an unsorted list.

      The first time was in the early 1980s in a VAX program to process the user usage logs. The unsorted list performed poorly with over 1000 active users / month.

      The second time was a Jovial to Ada translator. Worked OK until I fed it an F-16 program that had a LOT of symbols. Over 3 CPU days - still did not finish. After recode to a hash table - done in under 15 minutes.

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      Mark :verified: (mhjohnson@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 20-Oct-2023 10:22:23 JST Mark :verified: Mark :verified:
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      @Sophistifunk @NoBeret
      From the Book of Knowledge
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JOVIAL
      A lot of old aircraft flight software was written in Jovial before Ada came out.

      I worked with Jules on a custom language in the 1980s. A pretty decent dude.

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        JOVIAL
        JOVIAL is a high-level programming language based on ALGOL 58, specialized for developing embedded systems (specialized computer systems designed to perform one or a few dedicated functions, usually embedded as part of a larger, more complete device, including mechanical parts). It was a major system programming language through the 1960s and 1970s. History JOVIAL was developed as a new "high-order": 1  programming language starting in 1959 by a team at System Development Corporation (SDC) headed by Jules Schwartz to compose software for the electronics of military aircraft.The name JOVIAL is an acronym for Jules' Own Version of the International Algebraic Language; International Algorithmic Language (IAL) was a name proposed originally for ALGOL 58. According to Schwartz, the language was originally called OVIAL, but this was opposed for various reasons. JOVIAL was then suggested, with no meaning attached to the J. Somewhat jokingly it was suggested that the language be named after Schwartz, since he...
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      Sir Funk ?? (sophistifunk@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 20-Oct-2023 10:30:32 JST Sir Funk ?? Sir Funk ??
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      @mhjohnson TIL. Churbrew.

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