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Beebles (beebles@social.beebl.es)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 08:28:44 JST Beebles - kaia likes this.
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Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 08:50:15 JST Sexy Moon @dushman @atlas @beebles my boss got me one and it was fucking worthless because you couldn't run an ssh terminal without jailbreaking it so I just wiped it and replaced it with Linux and it was a better Linux laptop at 180 dollars than a 500 dollar machine. -
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Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 08:50:16 JST Dushman @atlas@thonkbox.rightmouse.click @beebles@social.beebl.es
Everything in ChromeOS is a fucking webapp. Why would you even use that lmao? -
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atlas_core: self-hosted edition (atlas@thonkbox.rightmouse.click)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 08:50:18 JST atlas_core: self-hosted edition @dushman @beebles The philosophy, under modern use cases and expectations, I think can make sense but to act as if it is a full-on computer the same way Windows or Linux computers behave is not exactly right.
Also, "cloud gaming machine". That's all these computers will ever do; be a client for an online cloud gaming service not unlike Stadia or GeForce NOW, and not play games. Expectations are to be tempered: this is a substitute, not a replacement. -
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Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 08:50:19 JST Dushman @beebles@social.beebl.es
ChromeOS is the biggest piece of dogshit ever made -
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Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@5dollah.click)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 09:54:14 JST Johnny Peligro @teratology @dushman @beebles @atlas yeah linux nerds salivate over linux being the mainstream but i bet that if it got preinstalled more often all it'd do is make normal people hate linux -
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cipote :bishrexual: (teratology@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 09:54:15 JST cipote :bishrexual: @mischievoustomato @dushman @beebles @atlas this is why Ubuntu is mainstream, when I got my Dell I got the developer version with Ubuntu preinstalled (it was also cheaper). It wouldn’t even boot properly out of the box, not that it mattered because I installed my own stuff over it.
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Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@5dollah.click)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 09:54:16 JST Johnny Peligro @dushman @atlas @beebles As defaults it would be one thing, but nothing stops the store or the local tech whiz kid from being asked to put windows on it or recommending that. Not to mention that linux needs a fuckton more QA and testing before it can be mainstream -
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Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 09:54:17 JST Dushman @atlas@thonkbox.rightmouse.click @beebles@social.beebl.es
I guess the best way to onboard people would be to popularize Linux as a default option on laptops and prebuilts. Most people will just use whatever it comes with. -
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atlas_core: self-hosted edition (atlas@thonkbox.rightmouse.click)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 09:54:18 JST atlas_core: self-hosted edition @dushman @beebles I entirely agree with you, and I'm all onboard with Linux becoming the de facto standard, for who that can apply to. I'm in tech classes that basically teach the more power-user stuff (in corpo language admittedly) and I absolutely think that Linux would fit this "lifestyle" (for the lack of a better term) just as much if not more than Windows.
However, the "normie" that just wants to chat with friends on Discord and whatnot, do their Google or Microsoft Office work, or just go on Facebook, Instagram, things like that, they don't care that they're running on entirely moral, community-driven stuff. Windows and Chrome OS will do the job just fine for them, and it won't needlessly complicate things.
(also it's getting tiring to cut and paste my messages every time you send a new reply lmao) -
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Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 09:54:19 JST Dushman @atlas@thonkbox.rightmouse.click @beebles@social.beebl.es
Gets worse with every major version -
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Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 09:54:20 JST Dushman @atlas@thonkbox.rightmouse.click @beebles@social.beebl.es
Modern Windows was too much for them to bear lol -
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Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 09:54:21 JST Dushman @atlas@thonkbox.rightmouse.click @beebles@social.beebl.es
I did get a few friends into desktop Linux though -
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Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 09:54:23 JST Dushman @atlas@thonkbox.rightmouse.click @beebles@social.beebl.es
I guess I'm very detached from the perspective of the average person by now. I manage all the stuff running here like the fedi instance, mumble, invidious and searxng. -
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Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 09:54:24 JST Dushman @atlas@thonkbox.rightmouse.click @beebles@social.beebl.es
I got the basics figured out pretty quickly when I started our with Linux but I was already into poweruser stuff beforehand ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -
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atlas_core: self-hosted edition (atlas@thonkbox.rightmouse.click)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 09:54:25 JST atlas_core: self-hosted edition @dushman @beebles For the very same reason people use Windows over Linux, the average Chrome OS person can't reasonably be expected to know to use Linux, which I also remind is a completely different OS philosophy than Chrome, that being to use actual programs that aren't always web apps regardless. They want something that works. -
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atlas_core: self-hosted edition (atlas@thonkbox.rightmouse.click)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 09:54:26 JST atlas_core: self-hosted edition @dushman @beebles Remember, the Chrome OS demographic just want a laptop that works enough for them to do their stuff mostly performed on web apps. They don't really care that Google is spyware and bad and oh my golly goshness, they just want to live a life. -
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Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 09:54:27 JST Dushman @beebles@social.beebl.es @atlas@thonkbox.rightmouse.click
No google bullshit and webapps that spy on you -
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Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 09:54:28 JST Dushman @beebles@social.beebl.es @atlas@thonkbox.rightmouse.click
Will do the same thing but better -
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Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 09:54:29 JST Dushman @beebles@social.beebl.es @atlas@thonkbox.rightmouse.click
Or whatever normie friendly distro. Will be smooth and will potentially cost even less. -
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Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 09:54:30 JST Dushman @beebles@social.beebl.es @atlas@thonkbox.rightmouse.click
Counterpoint:
Thinkpad running Alpine :lain_smug2: -
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Beebles (beebles@social.beebl.es)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 09:54:31 JST Beebles @dushman @atlas Imagine you're a student and literally all you do is google docs and email
A $200 machine that can do that is way more tempting than a $500 windows laptop that will probably be slower because windows