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@Cayhr this meme lied, i used it numerous times with the intent to offend and it doesn't work
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@lina Haha, what was the outcome? Indifference? Confusion?
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@Cayhr indifference really, it's like it's not as insulting as it is painted out to be unless it's used with the intent of being "polite" and not malicious, it's unlike the nigger word that outright has awesome power
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@lina I think generally it's received indifferently. Of course, the internet =/= reality, and that term is only something we see perpetuated online. At worst it probably causes confusion.
And yeah it's not as powerful as "nigger" but you can't deny that the term is rather insulting. The romance languages are what they are because of the male/female typing, and this is basically coercing change in the language.
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@Cayhr yea but i think it's one thing when you actually understand how they work (russian has not only male/female but inanimate too) and you intentionally call someone a latinx, and a whole other thing when you're ignorant and you call someone latinx because you think that's inclusive, it just hits different when you know someone is so dogshit stupid he can't ever comprehend a language where things are inherently perceived as male or female (or outright inanimate in russian too)
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@lina Of course, intent matters. I forget where I first learned the idea from but "intent matters" is something I've been holding onto. Even the intention behind intentions; like when someone does something malicious and then feigns ignorance (it was just a prank, bro).
>and a whole other thing when you're ignorant and you call someone latinx because you think that's inclusive
That's the tragic part to me. People who don't know any better end up using the term and causing confusion. The way I see things, it's superficially innocuous or benign, but there's an extra layer of insidiousness that I don't think most people care to realize; not necessarily out of malice but just because there are other things demanding their attention.
One of my friends is actually taking a "Latinx Studies" class as (I presume) the general ed portion of his degree, and he has vehemently voiced his hatred and boredom of that class. Ultimately though, he just suckers up and does the work so he can proceed in his... something medicine and therapy related degree. I'm very curious what the other students think of it. I think most people would rather move on with life rather than bring up the issue and stop it. Like I mentioned before, I can't blame him because that's far above his goal in that institution, but yknow, that's also how stupid ideas like that proliferate. A strange philosophical conundrum; are we duty bound to challenge stupid ideas like this no matter where they spawn? Perhaps it's easy to say yes if you have a lot of time on your hand, but some people are probably just way too busy and don't have the mental affordance to.
Part of me actually thinks "Latinx" is a spawn of academia rather than online mental illness. The latter is the disseminator, since academics tend to have a mental/social space utilizing social media.
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@Cayhr i just think that latinx is a spawn of businessmen trying to make sure as few people as possible are offended by anything happening, it just so happens that businessmen started running academical facilities like colleges and universities
but yea, i guess too many people assume irony as the intent and often times full on sincerity falls flat on its face because of it, not a fan really, i hate having to resort to irony and sarcasm when talking to people, i like thinking that people are smart enough to be able to talk without those crutches
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@lina >i just think that latinx is a spawn of businessmen trying to make sure as few people as possible are offended by anything happening
We can go a bit further, where did the general sentiment of trying to offend as little as possible come from? My theory is that terms like latinx and the sentiments for "inclusivity" are a product of something much more abstract. I think simply someone either in academia or the business sector came up with it as a RESULT of what started in the sociopolitical sphere with small things like political correctness. Gradually, people's way of thinking and speech became, in a way, sanitized, and they sought ways to implement that sanitization in other areas of society.
That's just my uneducated analsysis, though 🤷
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@Cayhr i think it's more or less like that too, but the thing is that i hopefully will never have to deal with it
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@lina The problem is that stuff that you could argue is just a nothing burger and isn't actually really prevalent, is suddenly appearing in your life. I asked once to a group of university mates, "Does anyone actually identify as latinx?" And one replied "I have a few friends that do."
That's the crazy part to me. It's simultaneously an invention of a minority and a total nothing-burger, but is also finding its way into lots of people's lives. I forget the numbers but it's something like less than a third of the total population in the US actually uses social media.
But my sampling could also be biased because it's among young university students and graduates, the ones extremely likely to have social medias and thus engage in online ideas.
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@Cayhr not to mention be extremely impressionable
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@lina Impressionable... sometimes I wonder how much of it overlaps with gullible.
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@Cayhr probably often enough
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@Cayhr @lina
>where did the general sentiment of trying to offend as little as possible come from?
women, same sentiment that was later twisted by jews
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@rlier23 @Cayhr i think it's necessary when you have larping mexicans acting as if national socialism is a tribe, and not an ideology with history
they'll think russia bad cuz soviet union or something
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@lina @Cayhr the insulting part of the latinx shit is not the phonetics.
it's more the people that use it.
fucking wiggers trying to act condescending, as if some sort of royalty was calling its pets name
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