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That Would Be Telling (thatwouldbetelling@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Oct-2023 07:04:04 JST That Would Be Telling
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@af2 @wizardyuuka @MuscleOrc1221 Generally correct, but for vehicle battery material substitutions you have to factor in weight to energy density differences.
Lead acid batteries have a variety of advantages if you keep the lead and sulfuric acid away from the environment and you, but they’re a lot more mass to start and stop, accelerate and decelerate (absent regenerative breaking, and you’ll still have some losses).
Maybe look into https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_iron_phosphate_battery ??
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  Lithium iron phosphate battery
  
  The lithium iron phosphate battery (LiFePO4 battery) or LFP battery (lithium ferrophosphate) is a type of lithium-ion battery using lithium iron phosphate (LiFePO4) as the cathode material, and a graphitic carbon electrode with a metallic backing as the anode. Because of their lower cost, high safety, low toxicity, long cycle life and other factors, LFP batteries are finding a number of roles in vehicle use, utility-scale stationary applications, and backup power. LFP batteries are cobalt-free. As of September 2022, LFP type battery market share for EVs reached 31%, and of that, 68% was from Tesla and Chinese EV maker BYD production alone. Chinese manufacturers currently hold a near monopoly of LFP battery type production. With patents having started to expire in 2022 and the...
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  af2 (af2@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Oct-2023 07:04:05 JST af2
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  @ThatWouldBeTelling @wizardyuuka @MuscleOrc1221 From a repairability standpoint, ICEs are much more complex with (literally) more moving parts. EVs are simpler, so much so that some of the earliest automobiles were electric (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flocken_Elektrowagen). You could even produce your own batteries if you had a supply of lead (easier to come by than oil or lithium). Current Tesla abominations that refuse to start unless the mothership gives authorization isn't specific to EVs, it's just a bad product.
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    Flocken Elektrowagen
    
    The Flocken Elektrowagen is a four-wheeled electric car designed by Andreas Flocken (1845–1913), manufactured in 1888 by Maschinenfabrik A. Flocken in Coburg. It is regarded as the first real electric car. History In 1888, Flocken added a department for electrical engineering to his company Maschinenfabrik A. Flocken in Coburg and from then on experimented with electric vehicles. In the same year, the first Flocken electric car was built. This vehicle was originally a chaise, similar to the Daimler Motorized Carriage in 1886 by Gottlieb Daimler, but it was equipped with an electric motor. Little is known about Flocken's development work. In 1888, he provided a high-wheeled, iron-tyred carriage wagon (high center of gravity, narrow track width, turntable steering, etc.) with an electric motor, the power of about 0.9 kW (1 hp) of which was transferred to the rear axle by means of leather belts. The wooden vehicle is said to have reached a top speed of 15 km/h (9 mph) and weighed 400 kg (882 lb).In the following years, further models were developed. For example, there is a photo of a two-seater from around 1903 in the Deutsches...
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