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   cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Oct-2023 05:32:41 JST cjd

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   The reason he's in court is because The Oligarchy doesn't like him. It's been that way since 2016.
   
   Whether you side with him or with them is kind of a personal decision, and who is really in the right or in the wrong is probably something we mere mortals will never know.
   
   But lets not be silly and pretend like all these different court cases are being brought by completely different and unrelated people for entirely different reasons.
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     Caek Islove ? ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Oct-2023 05:32:36 JST Caek Islove ? ❤️

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     @cjd @freemo @thatguyoverthere @georgetakei Shitlibs think Trump is evil because he's the first President in 50 years that didn't start a new war.
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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Oct-2023 05:32:37 JST cjd

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     I think that to see him as a *particularly* bad guy requires a lot of ignorance to what The Oligarchy does.
     
     They and their little "free trade agreements" turned vast swaths of America into an unlivable hell-scape the likes of which are not seen anywhere else in the world. Then you have 9/11, patriot act, and Bush's forever wars and dumping of heroin on the people, in addition to destroying America's credibility in the world by wanton embrace of torture.
     
     I don't know how you measure "evil" but if it's by the amount of human suffering created, 1000 Trumps couldn't even hold a candle to what the Clinton or Bush families have been capable of.
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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Oct-2023 05:32:38 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     @cjd

     I have no access to TV or cable... so first principles is the only answer

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     cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Oct-2023 05:32:39 JST cjd

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     > an evil, racist man who lies through his teeth and does illegal things at every turn
     
     Did you deduce that from first principles, or did you fall asleep with the TV on and wake up knowing it ?
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     🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Oct-2023 05:32:40 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     I mean sure, the oligarchy doesnt like him and im sure thats making it much worse on him...

     But the fact that he is an evil, racist man who lies through his teeth and does illegal things at every turn might have a tiny bit to do with it too.

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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Oct-2023 06:42:56 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @deavmi @cjd @freemo @thatguyoverthere @georgetakei free trade is good but 'free trade agreements' are a different beast. if i want to trade with you, i don't need a 3000 page document that says 'yeah ok you can do it'.
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     Tristan B. V. Kildaire ??? (deavmi@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Oct-2023 06:42:57 JST Tristan B. V. Kildaire ???

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     @cjd @freemo @thatguyoverthere @georgetakei eyo. Free trade is good.

     Unironically, I stand for it.

     Patriot act bad, and I stand against it.

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     Tristan B. V. Kildaire ??? (deavmi@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Oct-2023 06:46:02 JST Tristan B. V. Kildaire ???

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     @lain @cjd @freemo @thatguyoverthere @georgetakei No totally agreed. I meant more as to say I believe free trade is as much a right as free speech and the right to bare arms.

     But yes these documents are not really the freest of Things I guess. It’s like open trade between countries onntheit list, not free trade.

     Open is a subset of fee but it is not free.

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